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A few days ago I saw someone shouting for a pickup group to go kill trash in Sunwell, and I thought it was pretty stupid. Then I realized that the pattern for what is more or less the best obtainable rogue chest piece drops there. Now, barring of course the fact that the pattern has a snowball's chance in hell of dropping I think I'd like to try this. Is there anyone familiar with Sunwell who could give me some pointers. My guild is way under-geared (a few pieces of T5 but mostly T4 and Kara gear) and I was wondering if this would even be possible. We wouldn't try a boss, but would we even stand a chance against the trash mobs?

I see Sunwell trash groups advertised in trade all the time. They usually use a load of mages and the point isn't so much to get rare recipes as to get the epic gems that I think they all have a chance of dropping.

It seems a little stupid to me, you come in and have 1/25th of a chance of maybe getting a gem that's slightly better than what you have. Kinda not worth the repair bill.

It's not worth it unless you're in a guild that's in BT. SWP is hard; yes, even the trash is rougher than usual.

Just get the badge chest instead. It's way easier.

I run with pug's for sunwell trash all the time, im in T4, lots of people are in T4/T5 and T6 and its sooooo easy, we usually 15-20 man it , but remember one thing, NEED AT LEAST 1 MAGE (5 IS BETTER) and it is easy mode, i won a sunmote yesterday which i sold for 1200g and a pyrestone today which sold 200g :), Mounting Vengeance dropped the other day for my Fury Warr friend and he was ecstatic.

My 2c, Speed

edit: spelt time wrong T_T

Edited, Sep 29th 2008 5:18am by Speedburst

I heard that trash runs were viable for the raid leader to get a ban and everyone who partakes getting a warning, since essentially you are exploiting the reset function of an instance.

Thoughts, comments, insults?

Badge/ZA sure, I was only thinking (as the OP pointed out) of a tank in Kara/Gruul gear vs. the FU Robot... not a pretty picture.

Honestly, I always felt a little strange farming those mobs, even after I scored the smelting recipe. But I wouldn't think it bannable. My feeling was more of the same I get after eating too many cookies rather than sneaking into the cookie jar.

Just something that came up in guild chat one day. I mentioned I had considered doing a Sunwell GKP so I would have a shot at the Carpace, the glove pattern and the upgrade goggles. Someone else said they had heard of people getting banned/warnings for doing that and not attempting the boss because you are essentially going in, killing the first two pulls and then just waiting for them to respawn and doing it over and again.

I guess the exploit would be that you are taking advantage of the automatic respawn that happens if you don't reach/down the boss in time in order to get phat lewtz.

What exploit?

Blizzard intentionally put in resets so that groups of players could do the content over and over. It doesn't matter if you only kill 1 mob or 100, 1 boss or 5. The option is there to *gasp* reset.

The only exploit from this is the one where players could find out if a certain drop was in that instance or not.

Well, because you're not saved all you actually have to do is zone out, change leader, and then zone back in. This is a little simpler if you have the Druids sitting around to spam-Hibernate, but not much.

If Blizzard thought it counted as an exploit they could always make it so the trash doesn't drop anything.