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#1 Sep 26 2008 at 2:15 PM Rating: Default
Hey guys what's up.

OVer a year ago, I capped my rogue and didn't play much more. The guild I was in was just starting to run MC and I'm not a huge fan of PvP, I prefer PvE/raiding/instances to be honest.

Well I handed my acct. over to my friend, who played it up to 70, then quit a few months ago.

I'm looking to return to WoW and start hitting most of the stuff I missed since BC came out. I've got a rogue and I just wanted to know what shape he's in and where I Should start. IT looks to me as it's pretty PvP based right now. I haven't logged on to the account in game quite yet but I Guess this is what he's got equipped right now.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Deathwing&n=Sarutobi

Yeah, maybe he was geared to PvP at the moment and he has better PvE gear in the bank or whatever.

Just some questios if you guys don't mind.

1) How should I Get speced to do more PvE
2) What gear should I focus on geting
3) What does it look like I'm geared for now? (instance wise)
4) If I end up deciding to play until the new release, is it even worth working on loot right now? OR should I just wait for WotLK loot..
5) Are rogues still kinda useless in raids?

With all that being said, if I like the game enough I'd be willing to pay for a transfer to a guild that needs a spot. I'd like to start doing Naxx and Kara and all the raids I've missed out on... I don't really care if it's below my level I just wanna see the battles I've missed out on. Which is everything after they released BWL. Wow, I know...

I'd really love to start raiding again when I get a more solid work schedule, I'm gonna need something to do this winter.

Edited, Sep 26th 2008 6:11pm by SSJSephirothomglolwtf
#2 Sep 26 2008 at 2:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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Read the Sticky. Come back, ask any questions you still have.

EDIT: The sticky won't answer all your questions, so I'll help out some I suppose.

5) Rogues are not useless in raids, we provide incredible DPS and we also have Wound poison which is useful for certain encounters. But out high DPS is what makes people bring us.
4) Yes its worth getting gear now, since every piece you get now will help you level faster when Lich King comes out.
3) You're fine for everything up to Kara, maybe ZA if the rest of the group is good.
2) Get Hit>AP>Crit
1) Go Combat.

Read the Sticky for more information.

Edited, Sep 26th 2008 6:49pm by GodOfMoo
#3 Sep 26 2008 at 2:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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1) How should I Get speced to do more PvE
2) What gear should I focus on geting
3) What does it look like I'm geared for now? (instance wise)
4) If I end up deciding to play until the new release, is it even worth working on loot right now? OR should I just wait for WotLK loot..
5) Are rogues still kinda useless in raids?

Welcome back.. um.. maybe ;)

1. Start here. Then go here.
2. For PvE combat builds: Hit > Agi/AP > Crit etc. Shadowpanther has a great list here. But be sure to know why things are listed in the order they are (refer to Elitist Jerks).
3. Seems like in the linked armory that if you regemmed for hit, you would do fine in tier-4 raiding (Kara, Gruuls, Magtheridon) and early bosses in t5.
4. Loot will not be a complete reset for LK as it was for BC. Right now t6 is looking like it will last to 78-80 and early 80 raiding. t4 gear from what I can tell should last up to the mid-late 70s.
5. I am not useless in my raid. Your millage may vary. :P

Hope that helps. Cheers!
#4 Sep 26 2008 at 5:42 PM Rating: Decent
If your planning to go PvE as your main time-spender, first go combat fists, unless you can find some swords better than the badge fists, which is kinda hard to find in the first place. After that, get the cenarion head enchant. See if you can get your scryer's rep to honored, and get their shoulder enchant. I'd change the 10 stam on chest to +6 all stats, change glove's enchant to +15 agility, and change foot enchant to surefooted. Then get rid of your crit strike gems and replace with hit rating and agility, and ap if you REALLY need it. I'd also change the battlemaster's cruelty to maybe a Bloodlust Brooch (also a badge item). Or if you can hurry before Brewfest ends, you can kill the seasonal boss and get his equivalent to the forementioned trinket (same stats and ability, different name).

Good luck!
Bandefaca

(First post!)

Edited, Sep 26th 2008 9:39pm by bandefaca
#5 Sep 26 2008 at 5:48 PM Rating: Good
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Don't use AP gems.

Hit Gems>Hit/AGI Gems>AGI Gems in general. If you want to be sure get a spreadsheet and check it out.

Also don't use Surefooted, AGI to boots, or Cats Swiftness is a much better choice.

Otherwise the above post is spot on as to what you should do.
#6 Sep 26 2008 at 6:28 PM Rating: Good
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Your reputations scream "I bought this account."


Your post confirms.
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#7 Sep 26 2008 at 11:46 PM Rating: Default
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MyTeddy wrote:
Your reputations scream "I bought this account.



OP wrote:
OVer a year ago, I capped my rogue and didn't play much more. The guild I was in was just starting to run MC and I'm not a huge fan of PvP, I prefer PvE/raiding/instances to be honest.


Bad Teddy. Learn to read posts.
#8 Sep 26 2008 at 11:50 PM Rating: Good
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I can see why from the way its written he would think so.

I have no opinion on it except that his posting name on Alla sucks to all hell.
#9 Sep 27 2008 at 12:00 AM Rating: Decent
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GodOfMoo wrote:
I have no opinion on it except that his posting name on Alla sucks to all hell.


/nod
#10 Sep 27 2008 at 6:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'd like to congratulate you on having one of the most retardedly inane account names. Every time you post, somewhere in the world, a nubile FFanboy cums his pants for no apparent reason.

Go play a warlock plz.
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#11 Sep 27 2008 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
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zepoodle wrote:
MyTeddy wrote:
Your reputations scream "I bought this account.



OP wrote:
OVer a year ago, I capped my rogue and didn't play much more. The guild I was in was just starting to run MC and I'm not a huge fan of PvP, I prefer PvE/raiding/instances to be honest.


Bad Teddy. Learn to read posts.


READ THE NEXT DAMN LINE

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Well I handed my acct. over to my friend, who played it up to 70, then quit a few months ago.


Thus my statement is completely valid. If 'someone' was playing over the past year, his rep's would not look like he just bought a 70 and started soing SSO rep.

Edited, Sep 27th 2008 12:52pm by MYteddy
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#12 Sep 27 2008 at 4:35 PM Rating: Default
Damn, thanks for the info guys. I've been doing a lot of reading and am excited to come back!

No I did not buy this account. I've logged days on it actually. WoW was a wayyy different game when I played it. **** BG just came out around the time I quit. It's been years, I didn't remember a lot of stuff, sorry to look dumb but it's the internet so lolz i don't give a ****. Thank you to the people the helped.

And yes, the name is god awful because I'm making fun of all the little 15 year old fanboy punks. I hate DBZ, I hate little pre pubescent nerds too. FF7 was a good game though. Take it easy guys, it's all in good taste, haha.

#13 Sep 27 2008 at 6:24 PM Rating: Good
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MYteddy wrote:
Thus my statement is completely valid. If 'someone' was playing over the past year, his rep's would not look like he just bought a 70 and started soing SSO rep.


Yes! Because clearly when the Korean character seller was grinding to 70 he stopped over in Molten Core to get some reputation with the Hydraxian Waterlords.
#14 Sep 29 2008 at 8:42 AM Rating: Decent
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SSJSephirothomglolwtf wrote:
Take it easy guys, it's all in good taste, haha.



No, it's not.


I hate fanbois, ff, etc, but I didn't dedicate my retarded *** name to it. You're an moron.
#15 Sep 29 2008 at 9:25 AM Rating: Good
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Yes! Because clearly when the Korean character seller was grinding to 70 he stopped over in Molten Core to get some reputation with the Hydraxian Waterlords


There are other ways to get Hydraxian Waterlords rep other than Molten Core.

Edited, Sep 29th 2008 1:19pm by GodOfMoo
#16 Sep 29 2008 at 11:15 AM Rating: Good
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MentalFrog wrote:
You're an moron.
#17 Sep 29 2008 at 11:48 AM Rating: Decent
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EonSprinter wrote:
MentalFrog wrote:
You're an moron.


Yeah sorry about that. I totally screwed that one up.


*your an moran
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#20 Oct 02 2008 at 2:11 PM Rating: Good
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MentalFrog wrote:
Yeah sorry about that. I totally screwed that one up.


*your AN moran


Don't think eon was actually quoting you to correct anything.

If so the error would have been as above. But really who counts "A" and "AN" errors, everyone is always concerned with "your"/"you're" and "then"/"than".



Edited, Oct 2nd 2008 6:06pm by FinalMeat
#21 Oct 02 2008 at 8:29 PM Rating: Decent
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FinalMeat wrote:
MentalFrog wrote:
Yeah sorry about that. I totally screwed that one up.


*your AN moran


Don't think eon was actually quoting you to correct anything.

If so the error would have been as above. But really who counts "A" and "AN" errors, everyone is always concerned with "your"/"you're" and "then"/"than".



Edited, Oct 2nd 2008 6:06pm by FinalMeat


*woosh*
#22 Oct 03 2008 at 9:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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Aesonus wrote:

mentalfrog,

i do not say much on these forums but i must say that you are by far the most irritating person arround.


Thank you so much. It's nice to hear from my fans. I must have really made an impact when almost 1/4 of your entire posting career is directed at me. It's not easy being the most irritating, sarcastic, facetious, patronizing jerk around here. There's some pretty good competition.


Aesonus wrote:

In all the posts i've read, i've NEVER heard you say anything smart or usefull, Always being sarcastic and cracking people down.

The smart and usefullness in my posts have been subliminal, just enough to tickle your brain but not enough for you to realize it. What does this mean? It means you're actually smarter for reading my posts. You're welcome.


Aesonus wrote:

I vaguely remember a post (about 6 months ago) where you announced that you would quit.

Yes I do remember that post and like a true man I kept to my word. I did quit. The agonizing withdrawals were painful and intense. Not a day went by that I didn't want to kill myself and rez at the nearest spirit healer. But no, I forced myself to continue my pathetically empty and meaningless life. I went back to playstation, xbox, and other pc games but it's like a heroin junky trying to drown out their addiction by using marijuana, it was worthless.

After all my struggles I was finally free, free to live my WoWless, but still pathetically empty and meaningless, life. However it wasn't to be. It wasn't long before I won a free 60-day game card. At the same time a couple of RL friends got back into the game. How could I refuse my fate? Just like your fated to remain anonymously stupid on the internet, I was fated back to the game of WoW. I shall never again stray from my destiny.



Aesonus wrote:

I was glad.


I'm glad too.



Aesonus wrote:

Now i'm a sad panda :-(


Don't cry my little sap sponge.

Aesonus wrote:

please change your avatar.

okay, but only because you said please.
#23 Oct 05 2008 at 2:45 AM Rating: Decent
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LOL, nice reply mentalfrog. made me laugh out loud. you have point there :-)
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