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#1 Sep 25 2008 at 4:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey there, I have pretty much no experience in the Fury tree. I leveled up in Arms and am now full-time Prot.
Titans Grip just got nerfed a fair amount, but I still plan on trying it out when WOTLK launches.
I've looked at the cookie-cutter Fury builds but don't imagine they'll apply to the latest updates to the trees.

Can someone who plans to go deep Fury for TG please post a link to the build they expect to use as they grind up to 80?

Much appreciated, and also..if you're really helpful, what kind of rotations do you use in a Fury build. I'm only familiar with my rotations in my old Arms build.

Thanks in advance.
Jaylexx - Korialstrasz
#2 Sep 25 2008 at 5:47 AM Rating: Good
If WotLk went live today, my build would be "Deathknight".
#3 Sep 25 2008 at 10:12 AM Rating: Good
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Fury: I think I'd try to recreate something as similar as possible to my current build and go with that until I get a zone or two into Northrend and have a few more points and better gear to play around with.

Prot: The tree seems so stacked now... I'd be compelled to go pretty deep. I can see going 5/5/51 and still having very helpful talents skipped over.
#4 Sep 25 2008 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Definitely 5/5/51 as it stands. And that's for leveling!
#5 Sep 25 2008 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
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I'm the eternal optimist, I'm still going to run with TG fury initially ... I have a fair bit of hit gear atm, not enough to fully cap specials, but close-ish.

If I find it tooo infuriating (Kinda like I found Arms every time I tried speccing to it), then I'll give Devious's prot build a try ... the ultimate fall back will be an updated variant of 17/44 ... maybe try going for axe spec.
#6 Sep 26 2008 at 3:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Silly question regarding leveling in a prot build. It sounds very interesting to me....are you planning on playing in your dps gear, with the exception of the sword and board?

I would assume so, to get the most dps bang for you buck.

Damn that 5/5/51 build looks great, and now can finally be the build that will allow us to stay in one spec while question/solo'ing and also running the odd dungeon.

Edited, Sep 26th 2008 7:52am by jaylexx

Edited, Sep 26th 2008 7:52am by jaylexx
#7 Sep 26 2008 at 5:31 AM Rating: Good
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jaylexx wrote:
Silly question regarding leveling in a prot build. It sounds very interesting to me....are you planning on playing in your dps gear, with the exception of the sword and board?

I would assume so, to get the most dps bang for you buck.

Damn that 5/5/51 build looks great, and now can finally be the build that will allow us to stay in one spec while question/solo'ing and also running the odd dungeon.


You'll want to level in the gear with the most AP on it, so yeah - initially that'll be your DPS gear. You may, however, find some decent tanking gear going forward with perfectly adequate AP stats on it, at which stage, you'll probably be able to solo in your tanking gear.

Personally, if I decide to go with the prot solo option, I'll be doing so in my best DPS gear, and I will be focussing on picking up DPS gear over tanking gear as I level.

It's an incredibly exciting time, because for the first time ever, the prot tree is not simply there for tanking, but rather for someone who wants to play a warrior with a shield.

GC said in a recent post that the intention for the 3 trees is :

Arms - You hit (and Hurt) stuff with a big 2 handed weapon,
Fury - You hit (and Hurt) stuff with 2 weapons,
Prot - You hit (and Hurt) stuff with a sword and shield.

If this philosophy comes to fruition properly, we'll have warriors in a place I've wanted them since I started playing. I've always hated the idea of a warrior who gimps himself because he equips a shield, that's just not the way a warrior is.

Wow, I'm actually talking myself into wanting to level prot, and it's working :-)
#8 Sep 26 2008 at 6:16 AM Rating: Good
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I know what you mean, up until this morning I was totally committed to lvl'ing up in a TG-Fury build.
I'm really considering a prot grind up to 80 now.

Of course everyone will have to spec Fury for at least a day just to be able to walk around looking kick-***.
#9 Sep 26 2008 at 6:29 AM Rating: Decent
Any thoughts on a mix of arms and prot? Seems like you could get some good skills from 30ish/0/30ish.
#10 Sep 26 2008 at 6:47 AM Rating: Good
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Any thoughts on a mix of arms and prot? Seems like you could get some good skills from 30ish/0/30ish.


I don't know about an Arms/Prot hybrid with the new trees..but I do know that leaving 5 pts out of Cruelty in Fury = No Buenos
#11 Sep 26 2008 at 6:52 AM Rating: Good
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jaylexx wrote:
I know what you mean, up until this morning I was totally committed to lvl'ing up in a TG-Fury build.
I'm really considering a prot grind up to 80 now.

Of course everyone will have to spec Fury for at least a day just to be able to walk around looking kick-***.


Yup, the great thing when the patch hits is that there are a whole bunch of dailies, which we have all done so many times, it's sickening, and we all have almost an exact idea of how our current specs perform under those conditions.

So you spec (initially we'll have 0/0/0), head off to the isle, and do a round of dailies. Maybe do this 2 days in a row ... now you have a good feel of how your new spec feels... AND you have made money which you can now use to respec ;-)
#12 Sep 26 2008 at 6:57 AM Rating: Good
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Duecenola wrote:
Any thoughts on a mix of arms and prot? Seems like you could get some good skills from 30ish/0/30ish.


Hmmmm, Errrrr, dunno so much... the fantastic thing about prot at the moment is survivability and damage, with the damage focussed around Your Shield, and Multi Target damage. Shield Slams are going to form a large part of your DPS in a prot soloing build - the arms tree is more focussed on dealing damage associated to the weapon.

Shockwave is a Love it or Hate it talent ... I've heard guys raving about it, and others saying it junk (the ability to focus the cone being the biggest complaint). I believe it's like focussing a Dragon's Breath cone (or so I've heard) ... something I've pretty practiced at from playing a mage .. so I'm looking forward to it.

And yeah - missing out on 5% crit from Fury is a No No.
#13 Sep 26 2008 at 7:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Thinking about 0/31/30 (continue in fury tree). The ability to tank, plus a semi-retarded amount of damage via bloodthirst/concussion blow, 10% 1hander damage, Flurry, then hitting 80 with rampage. I'll try it after TG and skillstorm.
#14 Sep 26 2008 at 7:27 AM Rating: Good
I've always either been 2H Fury, Arms, or Prot. I have never had the interest to do DW Fury, and it doesn't look like I will any time soon. Not that I think anything is wrong with the build, I just like using a single, big two-hander.

Regardless of what some people think, I am pretty excited about the Arms tree changes, even Bladestorm to a certain extent.

Edited, Sep 26th 2008 11:22am by Meatballsub
#15 Sep 27 2008 at 1:12 PM Rating: Decent
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I find the prot tree for 3.0 seem to be solid for various purposes, survivability and control in PvP, solo (grind) PvE friendly, and you can still tank like a champ.

Arms seems split on what it wants to do. Sure you have the good old PvP talents, and now they are throwing in a few tank friendly talents and PvE grind/raid as well. But doesn't focus too heavily on being a solid choice for me, even with good gear.

Fury again seems to require better gear to perform as well as an arms build, just like in vanilla and bc. But it looks fun to play. But so does prot...

At least every warrior will have shield slam now, which with TM being in arms, and easily accessible for fury or arms builds. Any build of warrior will have threat rotations easily available.

I don't remember if SS and MS/BT share a cooldown anymore. I'll check that out later today.


::EDIT::

They don't. So MS/BT can be used in cycle with SS.

Edited, Sep 27th 2008 2:08pm by devioususer

::EDIT::

Wow, actually using MS and SS as an arms build is rather stunning dps. I never thought of this before. But with a slow *** MH and lots of Str gear, you can rotate some dps quite nicely.

Edited, Sep 27th 2008 2:28pm by devioususer
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