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#1 Sep 24 2008 at 9:37 AM Rating: Sub-Default
Lame much? "Hey, instead of going out and actually making some of the previously untameable beasts tameable, let's just recolor a few of the old beast types as ghosts and make them a new family!"

I wouln't have had a problem with them had Blizzard made them unique in some way, and feel that this family should be removed from the game, and the skins moved to their proper families.

Viva pterodactyles! Or basilisks, or thunderbeasts or any number of the current beasts.
#2 Sep 24 2008 at 9:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well given the popularity of the ghost wolf, I guess blizzard felt that the particular type of skin was a popular one and wanted to provide the players with a few options. But I guess we should all get mad at blizzard for giving us options and trying to listen to their player base.
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#3 Sep 24 2008 at 11:22 AM Rating: Decent
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I for one would be VERY happy to have a doggy equivalent to my Ghost Saber.

The only reason I've never tamed any of the wolf/dog family pets is that I just don't find any of them as attractive. A ghostly wolf is one of my dreams since I started playing WoW as a Hunter.

I guess I'm one of those Huntards... I like the look of my pet more than anything particular related to its stats. But don't worry, you have very little chance of ever having me in your Raid. I'm more of a quiet, in-my-corner, solo type of guy.
#4 Sep 24 2008 at 12:10 PM Rating: Good
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You're jumping the gun just a little aren't you? As yet, there's only been one Spirit Beast sighting, so for all we know they could all look like cats.

I'm hoping it does work like the way you've mentioned. Adding those other families would require more work than Blizz are prepared to put in on something that, let's face it, would only affect the hunter community, and they've already revamped pets and given us lots of cool toys.

If this is a quick way to get some of the currently untameable skins as pets, then only an idiot would complain.
#5 Sep 24 2008 at 12:42 PM Rating: Excellent
capcanuk wrote:
I guess I'm one of those Huntards... I like the look of my pet more than anything particular related to its stats. But don't worry, you have very little chance of ever having me in your Raid. I'm more of a quiet, in-my-corner, solo type of guy.
I just feel like interjecting here. That's hardly the attitude, nor definition of a Huntard by a long shot. As long as you are aware of the shortcomings and choose for a good reason (looks can definitely be a good reason unless you are Twinking/High Performance raiding), you are hardly a Huntard.

Huntards do stupid **** because they are stupid. Not because they choose to do things differently for their own sake.

As long as you know how to perform well or how to achieve the necessary gear/pet/skills to perform well, you ain't no Huntard. Hell, I'm sticking with Humar as a pet, even though he's going to be even further from the top than he was in TBC. My own reasoning is not too far from yours on that matter. And as long as I can make up for that gap between personal reasoning and top performance in other ways, I will not consider myself a Huntard either...
#6REDACTED, Posted: Sep 24 2008 at 1:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I think you guys misunderstood what I was saying here. My point was that Blizzard actually made /more/ work for themselves by doing this. If they do make this pet family a bunch of the old pet families but with ghost patterns, they will have to make these new skins, then put them in an entirely new family with a new skill.
#7 Sep 24 2008 at 2:41 PM Rating: Decent
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TwilightJay wrote:
I think you guys misunderstood what I was saying here. My point was that Blizzard actually made /more/ work for themselves by doing this. If they do make this pet family a bunch of the old pet families but with ghost patterns, they will have to make these new skins, then put them in an entirely new family with a new skill.

I am not, by a long shot, saying they should remove these skins from the game. What I meant was that it was kind of lame that they went out and made an entirely new pet family out of recolors instead of putting said recolors where they belong, in the family they look like.

Those two ghost cat skins should be tameable /cats/. Any ghost dogs they make tameable should be wolves, not spirit beasts.

There are so many more pet families that I think the players would rather see instead of a family of recolors. But hey, if you guys are fine with Blizzard wasting a new pet family slot on recolors, I'll shut up.

I just want to point out that I have the feeling that they only have a certain number of "new pet" slots that they are willing to devote resources too.

/endrant


They're ghosts. They're not alive. By your reasoning then zombies and ghosts should have the same attributes as humans and classified as such. Nonsense I say.

It's not as much work as you say it is. Why aren't you complaining about the new exotic pets? By adding them in Blizzard is making more work for themselves.

I'm glad they're taking the time and effort to add something that is unique. If I didn't want a wide range of variety then I'd want Blizzard to just have all animals be the same. Forget about special families, talents, etc. A bear should be a cat should be a wolf should be a bird should be a spider, etc, etc. Talk about lame.
#8 Sep 24 2008 at 3:01 PM Rating: Decent
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It would be highly appreciated if you thought before you started to rant. There are so many stupid things you said, that I'm having a hard time organizing my thoughts.

1. There are no limits to how many pet families Blizzard can give us.
2. So far, there is only ONE known Spirit Beast, so no one knows the future of the pet class.
3. If this pet class does turn out to be reskinned beasts of all types, then this is a nice incentive to go BM. Why not give players who go all the way down to 51-point BM a wide variety of Exotic -and attractive- pets?
4. There are two ways that they can go about giving us a new pet family to tame. A) Make an already-existing Beast tameable. or B) Create an entirely new beast family.
If there are going to be wovles, bears, owls ect. in the Spirit Beast family, then this would fall somewhere in between A and B. They would just have to pull up the old character model, reskin it, and give it the Spirit Beast mob ID. The way a mob looks has absolutely nothing to do with what class they are. You probably haven't been around long enough to remember the Serpent that was accidentally classified as a Wind Serpent, and was therefore tameable for a short period of time before Serpents were actually a tameable family.

If anything, this could be a smart way for Blizzard to give us an entirely new pet class, and be able to integrate it into old-worlds. They could make a few Spirit Beasts low level, rare spawns practically anywhere in the world. When we got completely new pets, such as Ravagers and Dragonhawks, we had the chance to tame one in newbie zones, but then we had to wait until Outlands to get one again because their lore just didn't fit in with any other zones.

Edit: Last point is moot, since the lowest level you can tame an exotic pet is 60


Edited, Sep 25th 2008 11:54pm by ProjectMidnight
#9 Sep 25 2008 at 3:33 AM Rating: Good
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Also, this is a way for Hunters to use their favourite species as a raid pet. Let's be honest here, I love what Blizz have done with the pet trees, but how many Hunters are not going to be raiding with a Ferocity pet? I can see maybe SV/MM Hunters with a Cunning pet for the buff, but by and large, Ferocity is the way to go for raiding I'm sure.

So, say you really like bears. They're awesome tank pets by all accounts, but I can't see a pet ever tanking a raid. (I'd love to be proved wrong, but I can't see any raid leader letting this happen) so raiding with one would simply be a waste of potential damage as you'll never be able to play your bear to its strengths.

Now if they add a Spirit Beast bear, you can tame that. For all intents and purposes, it looks like a bear. Yet as a Ferocity pet, it's gonna be a good companion on raids.
#10 Sep 25 2008 at 7:41 AM Rating: Good
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Last I checked. Lich King was still not released and won't be for another 7 weeks.

I'm seeing rants based on beta. I'm seeing definitives based on beta, etc. etc.

I think it's perfectly acceptable to comment on and make suggestions to change things based on what we see in the Beta. I certainly wouldn't put any kind of emotion or 'venting' based on it though.

Pets will changes. The trees will change. Builds, etc. will all change. It will take months to stabilize and get all the theorycraft tested completely. The new combinations of builds are almost mind boggling when you factor in the pets. A lot of players are going to have fun just swapping stuff around for a while to see what works and what doesn't.

So, I think it would be a good idea to back out of any kind of emotional attachment to any given opinion regarding changes in LK until the masses are actually beating it up and Blizz is no longer sending out patches on a weekly basis.

Personally, I don't CARE about spirit beasts or the pet families. I have my emotional attachment to my current pet and any others will be strictly for efficacy sake and I may even have a 'vanity' one that I get just because I like the looks. None of them will supplant Morris who has died more times than I can count for me and my groups. As long as the pets are approximatly balanced against each other, I could care less about the graphics.
#11 Sep 29 2008 at 12:14 PM Rating: Good
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I also am heavily attached to my current pet. At level 70 I decided to tame a Ghost Saber. Named her 'Bulletproof'.. because she's a ghost and spotted (full of holes :P).

The leveling grind of my ghost saber was extremely taxing. No immediate level to 5 below my current.. From 19 to 70 I killed everything without a pet.. leaving her on passive so she could leech xp.

A fellow hunter commented the other night before bloodboil "I can't believe you actually did it. I would have gone nuts." I've seen MAYBE one other at max level.. but she's special.
#12 Sep 29 2008 at 11:16 PM Rating: Good
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I have a ghost saber, but I got mine at 19 and avoided the unimaginable hell that leveling it fresh at 70 must have been.
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#13 Sep 30 2008 at 6:39 AM Rating: Decent
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This is getting a tiny bit off-topic, but...

I think this is the only thing that disappoints me about the upcoming changes to pets and pet taming.
All the people who tamed low-level pets and kept them faithfully to high level, or did as Ebonspine wrote and tamed a very low-level pet and grinded (ground?) it up to 70 through sheer obstinacy and force of will, will now be on the same level as anyone else.

Level 70? Want one of those level 10 Ravagers from the Dranei starter area? Sure thing, insta-level 65.
Rare level 10 spawn in a mob-infested zone that's hard to reach for level 10 toons? Sure thing, prance in there aat level 70 and waltz up to your target without aggroing anything.

Well, it might sound like QQ, but it is disappointing.

Blizzard has removed some of the prestige of getting certain pets.
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