@Jenova + any other theorycraftersFollow

there you go again. Firstly, I've calculated my dps values for crit and haste and the fact is that I haven't re-gemmed for a simple 0.1 dps increase on some old pieces. You can clearly see from my newer gear that I'm choosing haste.

On top of that - you should know that at my level of gear - fire does not form part of my dps rotation, so it's only value is for trash. I'm constantly respeccing between a straight destruction build, a Illidan tanking fight, and a Eredar Twins tanking fight. You probably don't realise that in the Destro+NetherProt build theres a throwaway point that can go anywhere without any great inconvinience.

I've been staying out of this one as I'm not known for diffusing arguments effectively, but come on Jenova... let it go.

There is a simple technique being applied against you, "reductio ad absurdam", which with a willing participant is called "Give him enough rope to hang himself". You really need to apply a mental filter before sayng things like "You should be honoured", regardless of your intentions (which I understand was a compliment from your perspective) it will come across as arrogant and vain.

I understand that you consider 'interesting' people to be 'above the rest of the sheep' to paraphrase you and therefore consider it a compliment, but you make these statements (as well as most of your statements, actually) from the standpoint of an interesting person; your mental landscape you consider to be above the 'sheep' and so you see 'elevating' the worthy to your rarified stratum to be of the highest praise.

Don't you see how crushingly bad this is?

There's every chance you're one of the sheep too, one of the defining aspects of stupid people is they are rarely aware of their own ignorance. In which case, going around to other sheep butting heads and claiming to be a shepherd (to vastly over-extend the analogy) isnt going to get you much respect in sheep-land is it, and guess what; the real 'interesting people' don't give a damn either.

When a debate descends to the level where you are chasing "Im right ha ha" instead of actually trying to reach a common understanding then the debate has basically failed. I cant even remember what the initial thrust of the debate was and Im too tired to go back and try to puzzle it out again. If you want to trap a person like a moth under a poison pin and say "See, told you I was right" then even if you are right you've done it for entirely the wrong reasons and you're still a total douchebag.

And trust me, being wrong in that situation is unimaginably worse.

Give it a rest mate.

Depends on the IQ test, actually, and I have been given several. Some of them cannot be studied for, especially if they are of the sort that you are more or less given on the spot and/or without having prior knowledge that you will be given one. And all but one of those IQ tests I have been given has been under those latter circumstances. What the results of those test are, I know, but feel no need to express them, as it is unneeded and I feel it's information that should stay private with me anyway. In addition, many IQ tests rely on response time and reaction. If your response time is slow, it could skew the results. Same if you are too quick.

As for what "interesting" is, that is a purely subjective term. Elevating oneself above others is a form of elitism and/or arrogance, especially if it is baseless or subjective (the case of the variable "interesting" lends to both of these). That, in short, is why I have trouble seeing why I should be "honored" to be seen as interesting, especially given this statement:



No one should have the term "honored" applied to them, or be gratified that someone is "wasting their time" on them.

Edited, Sep 25th 2008 12:52pm by wingsofscion

Eh, right now I'm holding out hope against hope my classes will be worth a damn - the only thing I've got left going for me is protection warriors (they gutted the survival hunter tree, and priests locks and shamans currently suck).

yeah, only reason I picked it up was something to do until Ex-Pac came out since raiding on my server is pointless. It's either a bunch of people who aren't ready for Kara, or people who expect you to have already cleared Hyjal and most of BT. Well, I've cleared most of Hyjal, but only been a little into BT and quite frankly, I'm tired of gearing people up in Kara. So I was giving this a shot until WotLK. Honestly though, I'm not sure I'll want to go back. Seriously, it's that good.

No, there are no free trials, not even recruit-a-friend passes, but you do get 30 days free once you buy it, that's pretty standard though. I'd imagine once it's been out a while there will be free trials, not sure though.

I did also offer the option that I was a sheep, but that I was simply interested in interesting people. the one thing though that I'll argue to my death is the notion of incompetence, stupidity or anything that suggests a lack of intellect (and in pretty much all forms of describing intellect). modestly, restraint, and knowing simply when to stop are things I don't have

i was born without that gene :P

i'm about as confused as possible, what on earth does that mean? also why bring back an old topic?

Edited, Jan 13th 2009 10:39am by Jenovaomega

yep :)