Hi
I have read alot about the strats. to AOE grind and so.
But when I level, is it really worth doing? will my xp/hr be better and will i be able to level faster?
Cause I am of course interested in leveling as fast as possible?
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If you want to level as fast as you can, it's not worth doing. Retribution will grind through quests faster, and quests give more exp than AoE grinding does now (at least for Paladins).
CapJack of the Seven Seas wrote:
If you want to level as fast as you can, it's not worth doing. Retribution will grind through quests faster, and quests give more exp than AoE grinding does now (at least for Paladins).
Totally agree with this. If you're Protection, you sorta NEED to AoE grind in order to get even comparable exp to questing as Retribution. And most quests become painful if you're a solo Prot Paladin. If you get competition in the area or are on a PvP server, AoE grinding is even tougher. It's just not worth it, in my view.
The only time it might be worthwhile is if you have a static instance group (or just do instances a lot), and grind during while LFG. Otherwise I'd go Ret for leveling.
Well a friend of mine might be questing with me. A hunter. Still not worht it?
If you said mage.... maybe. But with a hunter... nah, still better to go Ret.
I have found levelling as a Prot from the start to not be THAT much slower than levelling as a Ret, but that being said, I almost NEVER AoE grind. I still try to just get as many quests done as quickly as possible. If the quest involves killing multiple mobs or getting multiple drops from mobs, then you AoE grind WHILE questing.
I still think questing as a Ret is at least somewhat faster, but if you like to do all of the instances (and the quests therein) as you level up, you can get groups going even faster if you are Prot. If you are Ret and carry a 1-hander and shield, you can generate enough threat and have enough surviveability to tank anything up through about Mara though, so it really doesn't matter too much.
If you happen to like the Prot spec while levelling, it isn't going to slow you down a great deal, and if you are planning to spec Prot once you hit Outlands anyway, it really won't hurt you to practice on your way up... Just a matter of personal preference in my opinion. Do you like doing a bunch of burst damage on single mobs or would you rather take them on 3-6 at a time while questing? That is basically it.
I still think questing as a Ret is at least somewhat faster, but if you like to do all of the instances (and the quests therein) as you level up, you can get groups going even faster if you are Prot. If you are Ret and carry a 1-hander and shield, you can generate enough threat and have enough surviveability to tank anything up through about Mara though, so it really doesn't matter too much.
If you happen to like the Prot spec while levelling, it isn't going to slow you down a great deal, and if you are planning to spec Prot once you hit Outlands anyway, it really won't hurt you to practice on your way up... Just a matter of personal preference in my opinion. Do you like doing a bunch of burst damage on single mobs or would you rather take them on 3-6 at a time while questing? That is basically it.
Hmm okay
Not to sound cocky or so.. But how come then there is so meny videos online with Prot palas that grind with great result?
Not to sound cocky or so.. But how come then there is so meny videos online with Prot palas that grind with great result?
fredesuperman wrote:
Hmm okay
Not to sound cocky or so.. But how come then there is so meny videos online with Prot palas that grind with great result?
Not to sound cocky or so.. But how come then there is so meny videos online with Prot palas that grind with great result?
You have to keep in mind that Blizzard has buffed the per-quest XP quite a bit, and in the next patch, the xp for questing and for mobs in Outlands is getting a 30% buff on top of the already generous xp you get in outlands. It used to be that grinding was as efficient or more efficient than questing for getting xp, but that is really no longer the case. As an experiment, you can get Titan Panel and watch your xp/hour and compare questing to just grinding. Questing will beat the heck out of just grinding every time.
That is a different thing, those videos have highly geared and experienced pallies wiping out loads of mobs as an epeen thing as well as just showing what a prot pally can do.
I myself have taken on 23 (my personal best) of the SMV bloodelves at the same time and killed them all, though it took everying I had.
So a geared and experienced 70 pally would be able to pull it off whereas a levelling or a fresh 70 pally would not be able to do anything near that.
Ret leveling IMO is easier and faster and you can deal with a greater variety of mobs. For instance my pally who took on 23 elves, really struggled with a couple of slow hitting air elementals (still won mind).
Originally I did it to benchmark my tank gear and hone my skill as well as farming as it can be quite profitable, beyond that I don't do it and I am ret spec most of the time and spec prot/holy for instances.
Fast levelling - Ret, AOE grind for fun later.
Hope that helps
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I myself have taken on 23 (my personal best) of the SMV bloodelves at the same time and killed them all, though it took everying I had.
So a geared and experienced 70 pally would be able to pull it off whereas a levelling or a fresh 70 pally would not be able to do anything near that.
Ret leveling IMO is easier and faster and you can deal with a greater variety of mobs. For instance my pally who took on 23 elves, really struggled with a couple of slow hitting air elementals (still won mind).
Originally I did it to benchmark my tank gear and hone my skill as well as farming as it can be quite profitable, beyond that I don't do it and I am ret spec most of the time and spec prot/holy for instances.
Fast levelling - Ret, AOE grind for fun later.
Hope that helps
Cheers
Hmm yeah also what i thought...
But still... Most quests is all about killing a lot of mobs in a area, so therefor i thought AoE spec would go faster since I've heard that leveling a pala should be a *****
But still... Most quests is all about killing a lot of mobs in a area, so therefor i thought AoE spec would go faster since I've heard that leveling a pala should be a *****
Actually most quests are about running around, killing specific mobs, getting certain drops, etc.. etc... ALSO prot only really shines against melee mobs, if you have to kill a bunch of casters for a quest than you are screwed.
If you really want to try it out, by all means go for it. You asked what the fastest way to level was, and I'm telling you it's ret.
If you really want to try it out, by all means go for it. You asked what the fastest way to level was, and I'm telling you it's ret.
I leveled from 10-70 as prot. I can now safely MT all of KZ, and possibly Mag or Grull if I wanted..
I have a mostly blue ret set that comes out to 500 DPS soloing.
I vastly prefer grinding, farming, and questing as ret. Especially if there's casters. I'll go PvE holy to kill casters before prot..
I have a mostly blue ret set that comes out to 500 DPS soloing.
I vastly prefer grinding, farming, and questing as ret. Especially if there's casters. I'll go PvE holy to kill casters before prot..
plus you have the fact that if you are aoe grinding mobs, most spawns are far apart. they will leash before you get as many as you know you can handle. and in the LK expac, how many free quest mobs are you expecting to find with everyone doing the same quest you are at the same time . . .
there are too many conditions that need to be filled before Prot AoE grinding reaches its full potential. and most the time you will never see them all met at once. where as Ret the only condition you need to blaze through the exp is to find someone with a "!"
there are too many conditions that need to be filled before Prot AoE grinding reaches its full potential. and most the time you will never see them all met at once. where as Ret the only condition you need to blaze through the exp is to find someone with a "!"
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