Ambush RoguesFollow

There might be a reason why you can't. Think long and hard.

Assuming you mean at 70:

For Raiding you'll want to run as Combat Swords (or Combat Fists with the badge weapons). At least until the 3.0 patch hits when Muti may be viable (and I can't stress the word "may" more). There just isn't anything better right now then deep Combat. Period. See Elitist Jerks for more info.

For general PvE (dailies, non-heroic instances, etc) you can use any of the regular builds (Mutilate, Combat, Tri-Spec Hemololz or Deep Sub) really depending on your gear. Personally I really love deep sub (aka Shadow Step) for grinding dailies, but rarely respec back and forth (I raid). If you have no other distractions (i.e. raiding or arena), I say try 'em all for a week or two and see what you like.

For PvP start here. I'm not anywhere good enough to know what to suggest other than to say Shadow Step is not a dagger build and Mutilate will be better when 3.0 hits. Also check out ArenaJunkies if you're really into arena.

Basically, be prepared to be hear - over and over - that Ambush sucks. And compared to the other tools we have available, it does.

If you were looking for a leveling build, check the sticky. There's a fine example of learnin' there for ya.

Cheers.

ShS daggers isn't viable even in BGs until 3.0.2.

you all still dont get it. I dont need to be competitive. this is strictly for fun. something most others seem to have forgotten. the whole purpose of playing a rogue is for the hunt. the thrill of sneaking up and watching a clothie engaged and then wait to see if they are 60% health then one shotting them. its for fun. i'm not asking for oppinions, i'm asking for builds that supply the ambush trait. if i wanted to be a serious player, i'd drop on my 1500 dps shammy and grind raids for days on end.

YES IVE FORGOTTEN WHAT FUN IS WHICH IS WHY I PLAY ONLINE GAMES

Wow. You're a ******* idiot.

I don't have fun dying. I have fun killing people.

Then how about you go do what's fun for you, and he'll do what he finds fun, and we can pretend like you didn't just insinuate that your idea of fun is the only one that matters mmmmkay?

Oh, and also, if you want an example of a build that you can't seem to find, ask for one.

Not like this:



Like this:

"Hey, I've wanted to go to a dagger Ambush spec for a while. I know it's not optimal--otherwise it would be in the sticky--but I'd like to just mess around and have fun with it. Anyone mind helping me out?"

And you'd get favorable responses; not only is the English good, but the question is worded the proper way.

Because when any of the regular posters here see the words "Ambush" and "good" in a sentence together, there had better be a "not" in there, or we'll start laughing.

I didn't even think it was that funny, I was just trying to get our point across.

I mean yeah, people use Ambush and BS still, but it's just for ***** and giggles and it's certainly not "good".

Maybe good if you're used to "terrible, abysmal, and awful" I guess.

It was just poor wording in the OP's post and I'm trying to get across to the readers of at least this forum that WORDING MATTERS.

O.o ... thanks for reminding me ... I think my dagger skill sucks as well

Oh no, wait ... I had a 1.3 speed dagger from 66 to 70 ... I should be ok (btw, does anyone have any idea how much Combat potency procs with a 1.3 speed weapon ... it's orgasmic ;->)

I used something close to that. No points in backstab and I grabbed hemo and cheat death. When I get bored I still switch back to something similar just to play around on the Isle or in WSG if I'm really bored. I use outfitter to switch to daggers when I went into stealth then back to my fists after the ambush. Kinda fun sneaking up around the main fight and dropping their healers on them. :)

That's about all Ambush is good for anymore is just playing around and annoying people with it. ShS a clothie ambush them and vanish then sap them and leave. (Do this on the isle for fun :))

*edit: nevermind

Edited, Sep 18th 2008 11:09am by TherionSaysWhat

Yeah, it wasn't that bad in the old form (check out the Zyz WotLK video in the PvP forum for what the old version was like), but the new form just keeps you out in the open and ready for CC.

At this point, yeah, I agree; I'd rather have CB than ShD.

Then Theo, let me reiterate this for you so you can get off the tit. By oppinion I meant for people to stop saying that skill sucks. Thats completely oppinion based. I never asked for that. I asked for any known ambush builds that people may have seen or known about that gives the largest crit % possible, the best synergy with any other skill and the highest 1-shot damage output. Thats facts, not oppinions. The ones that posted builds are facts, the ones that said "There might be a reason why you can't. Think long and hard." "Ambush builds are crappy for anything you can do" And then the infamous "YES IVE FORGOTTEN WHAT FUN IS WHICH IS WHY I PLAY ONLINE GAMES

Wow. You're a @#%^ing idiot.

I don't have fun dying. I have fun killing people." are purely oppinions. I never asked what would you all think of this build. I know for a fact that ambush is sub-par. I've done it multiple times in the last year and a half I've played wow. So, I'm not trying to insult anyone, other than the first sentence, but when someone throws an insult out because they think they are superior to others, I feel obligated to return the favor. I'm looking for facts, ideas, theories. Not opps. For the rest, thanks for the info. I'll try any ambush build and let you know which ones I feel are more fun to have. Cause god knows you dont need any skill for bgs, so you never need to take em to seriously. At least, not on the couple servers I've been on.