Crusader strike - still the same, but weapon damage (changed in a patch sometime ago) is alot like bloodthirst (I have a warrior leveling as fury)
Divine storm - hmmm, feels ALOT like whirlwind
Hammer of Wrath - was pretty craptastic before, but now it reminds me so much of execute - instant and with talents it pretty much finishes off the enemy
two minute seals? erm sounds like shout
New mana system - feels like rage/energy except its always full - kind of like the fury and combat talents
Of course, its not exact copies, thank Goodness, but the amount of damage I have seen fury warriors put out, and alot of QQing about ret pallies out there from other classes, I think this is a good change. Aside from the terrible terrible lag, constant crashes, and such....I may actually level my old main and first toon that always held a special place in my heart and still does(replaced by my mage when he hit 70 as my raiding toon).
Couple of side notes on the PTR - the talents for Spellpower kick ***, im healing with FoL for almost 1500 at times, taletns also boost crit on the spells too, which include holy! With art of war, may be a glitch, but my FoLs are becoming instant, helly my holy light is criting for almost 4000 (around 3700, 3800 or so).
LOVE the ret aura, with all its melee AND spell haste goodness, knocks down the Fol and even Holy light quite a bit
Also, aoe as a ret is tons of fun, in fact for a challenge and the added bonus to consecrate, the whirlwind, erm I mean divine storm, judgments returning mana (replenishment returns .5% mana each time you judge regardless of which judge you use) imagine combining this with seal of wis or seal of light? Worked great when I soloed tuskar that elite elek (remember my craptastic gear now lol) as powerful as vengeance, crusader strike and divine storm seems to be, getting healed from ret aura and other talents, healed from divine storm, hell I don't really need the seal of light/wisdom combo.
As for numbers, all those people QQing, well, again, im not in some arena gear, or even good gear, and my numbers are about what I would expect from an equally geared fury warrior.
I gotta say though, one reason I enjoyed fury was that it was fun, ret not so much, but then again I do enjoy tanking, so I was fine with that, I have other toons I can dps with, but if this is any indication, 80 here we come! Fun stuff.
Disclaimer - please ignore the spelling, late and tired
as for those wondering about spec, I didn't really see too much to grab in prot or even holy, as the talents at the bottom of ret were all just too damn good - for 70 that is as I can see that its going to be tough for the last bits of points as I can see going into prot for 5 in strength and POSSIBLY 5 in anticipation - for a 10/61 build, or even 5 in seal of the pure, I don't see intellect as mana is a non issue. The only ones in ret I did NOT take were mostly the pvp ones, vindication, eye for an eye, and divine purpose. I supposed I could have taken parry, but that was one I did not.
Now that I think about it with mana not being an issue, benediction may not even be needed, and parry taken instead, gotta take 5 somewhere lol. Ten percent may not be that much and the mana cost, at least on my instant casts spells are about 138 for judgments (been judging once for the effect and some damage they die too quick with crusader strike and divine storm then a hammer
Anyway, went on a little more than I meant too, for that I apologize, I am curious how myc damage I can do as prot since they boosted that, but without our shield slam yet, - only able to test 70 lvl - as well as the holy for snitz and giggles, I do have some a craptastic holy gear too lol.
Heres a talent calculator for what I have on my 70 now
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin=052320512033310322135231351000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
I am now thinking looking at some of the talents that a couple may not be needed, and steering away a little from teh old school thinking. In all honesty with crusader strike and divine storm doing alot of damage, the inherent talents adding much more white AND yellow damage as well as a ton of critical strike damages a 2 second CD on imp judgements may not be needed. I will have to get recount set up on my PTR but I am not feeling much of a difference with SoC and SoV, hell even seal of light, eachtime I judge they all do about the same damage, and again, it is not like the old ret, SoC judge, crusader striek SoC judge, CS and so on.....definitelly will have to check that out, so there are a few points that might be put into str and anticipation with the remaining 10 pts and three in seal of the pure in holy, pursuit is nice and a luxury so there is one point to fill out seal of the pure and even keep one in pursuit - it is down to 2 pts and increases mount speed as well. Myabe something like this
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin=500320500033310322135231351050000000000000000000000000050050000000000000000000
Honestly, anticipation may not even need to be filled - 4 points and still keep SoC or a point in pursuit