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I have noticed a trend in the lich king expansion towards haste. The modification of Windfury totem and the presence of haste on a majority of the quest gear from expansion areas in particular. My question is, is the internal cooldown of windfury affected by haste? If not has anyone heard plans for it to be?
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aerie+Peak&n=Maulurom
(My Armory)
I currently have a haste rating of 94, which is an increase of 5.96% speed.
I haven't noticed any differences in the cooldown for Windfury.
When I cast Bloodlust, I'll generally use Shamanistic Rage, Blood Fury, use Drums of Battle, and maybe pop a Haste Potion. I should set up a macro for this, but haven't yet.
Bloodlust gives 30% melee and spell haste increase, and Drums of Battle gives melee and spell haste rating of 80. Haste potion is nice, as it gives haste rating of 400 for 15 seconds. I'm not sure exactly what my melee speed is when they are all active, but I know my Windfury still procs about every 3 seconds or so. It's just that I'm doing a lot more in between procs with all the haste.
And let me tell ya... When I do... Things die pretty fast!
(My Armory)
I currently have a haste rating of 94, which is an increase of 5.96% speed.
I haven't noticed any differences in the cooldown for Windfury.
When I cast Bloodlust, I'll generally use Shamanistic Rage, Blood Fury, use Drums of Battle, and maybe pop a Haste Potion. I should set up a macro for this, but haven't yet.
Bloodlust gives 30% melee and spell haste increase, and Drums of Battle gives melee and spell haste rating of 80. Haste potion is nice, as it gives haste rating of 400 for 15 seconds. I'm not sure exactly what my melee speed is when they are all active, but I know my Windfury still procs about every 3 seconds or so. It's just that I'm doing a lot more in between procs with all the haste.
And let me tell ya... When I do... Things die pretty fast!
Srry... Double post
Edited, Oct 2nd 2008 4:35pm by Maulurom
Edited, Oct 2nd 2008 4:35pm by Maulurom
I can't answer the question about Windfury Weapon, but I can tell you that it's going to instead be a flat melee haste instead of a proc for the totem. The proc itself is just an extra attack, so I don't see any reason why it will be affected by haste in any capacity (regular cooldowns are not subject to haste, save the GCD).
Haste does not lower the internal WF cooldown. This is why enhancement shamans (well good ones) don't stack haste on live. In WotLK, I think the standard imbues will be WF/FT with Lava Lash usage. Haste actually benefits FT whereas it has no effect on WF. I'm no number expert so I don't really know the exacts, but I guess there is potential for haste to be useful come WotLK though I have a strong feeling it still won't be a very good stat.
I haven't seen this answer to this question yet, but when WotLK comes out, will we be able to put WF buff on your weapons and benefit from the + haste from a WF totem? If this has been posted somewhere else, I apologize for posting this, but still need to know the answer.
Jiade wrote:
Haste does not lower the internal WF cooldown. This is why enhancement shamans (well good ones) don't stack haste on live. In WotLK, I think the standard imbues will be WF/FT with Lava Lash usage. Haste actually benefits FT whereas it has no effect on WF. I'm no number expert so I don't really know the exacts, but I guess there is potential for haste to be useful come WotLK though I have a strong feeling it still won't be a very good stat.
According to Elitist Jerks (or what I read from it), Haste is fine for Shamans. In fact, any damage lost by Windfury is more than made up for my the extra white damage. While haste isn't AS good for the previous reason, it isn't a negative stat. My guess is that it's about on par as far as priority goes as +hit.
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Haste Rating
Haste Rating will directly increase the contribution of white swings to your DPS - 1% Haste will generate 1% more auto attack DPS. Prior to patch 2.2 Haste Rating became the superior stat, but the 2.3 patch reduced its EP value closer to that of Hit Rating.
Modeling at one time indicated weapons hasted between 1.51 and 1.41 speed will actually experience a sharp decrease in potential Windfury DPS. The range of 1.51- 1.41 speed was believed to cause the main hand to always finish a swing just before the end of a WF cooldown, making you wait longer for the next eligible swing that can proc WF. If hasted in this period for a long duration, you could expect WF DPS contribution to decrease. However, you'll also experience many more white swings during that time, and so the loss of potential WF procs should be offset by the increased white DPS. It is no longer believed that the 1.5 to 1.4 hasted speed will actually cause any decrease in DPS - you should notice an overall increase.
There is no need to worry about the 1.51 - 1.41 hasted weapon range. The original claims about the supposed DPS loss had done no empirical or simulated testing to back up their modeling. More recent testing has indicated that whatever potential WF DPS is lost because of swing timer issues is more than made up for by the gigantic leap in autoattack DPS.
Haste Rating will directly increase the contribution of white swings to your DPS - 1% Haste will generate 1% more auto attack DPS. Prior to patch 2.2 Haste Rating became the superior stat, but the 2.3 patch reduced its EP value closer to that of Hit Rating.
Modeling at one time indicated weapons hasted between 1.51 and 1.41 speed will actually experience a sharp decrease in potential Windfury DPS. The range of 1.51- 1.41 speed was believed to cause the main hand to always finish a swing just before the end of a WF cooldown, making you wait longer for the next eligible swing that can proc WF. If hasted in this period for a long duration, you could expect WF DPS contribution to decrease. However, you'll also experience many more white swings during that time, and so the loss of potential WF procs should be offset by the increased white DPS. It is no longer believed that the 1.5 to 1.4 hasted speed will actually cause any decrease in DPS - you should notice an overall increase.
There is no need to worry about the 1.51 - 1.41 hasted weapon range. The original claims about the supposed DPS loss had done no empirical or simulated testing to back up their modeling. More recent testing has indicated that whatever potential WF DPS is lost because of swing timer issues is more than made up for by the gigantic leap in autoattack DPS.
Bolding is part of the original article; italics is my own. See here: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t20765-shaman_enhancement/#Haste_Rating
In conclusion, according to EJ, Haste rating is fine to have, so don't worry about it.
Yes, but most shamans do NOT gear for haste (enhancement shamans) because other stats are generally more effective at increasing dps. A large component of enhancement dps on live comes from Windfury and haste does not improve that damage. I did not say it was detrimental to your dps, but it is nowhere near as effective as strength or AP.
Haste is fine to have, but other stats are better.
Haste is fine to have, but other stats are better.
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