OK we were helping a bud level his Boomkin in Strat. There was the 56 Boomer, and three 70's with not a lot of
instance experience: 1)Bear Tank, 2)Tree Healer, 3)BM Hunter.
For the first time I started to get a sense of, well, rhythm. My gut was telling me that, stopping to eat,drink,
rearrange bags, etc. was wasting my precious rage and that waiting to start the next non-boss pull with no built
up rage was not wise.
Now I do not mean that we shouldn't heal or regen mana but rather to do it fast even if that means burning through
quite a few pots. Am I nuts ?
Edited, Sep 10th 2008 1:20pm by JDLKY
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I'm not sure what your question is. You shouldn't be switching out of bear between pulls, you should be pulling as soon as your healer has enough mana. That being said, 3 70s should be able to rip through strat. One 70 can solo it pretty easily.
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OK we were helping a bud level his Boomkin in Strat. There was the 56 Boomer, and three 70's with not a lot of
instance experience: 1)Bear Tank, 2)Tree Healer, 3)BM Hunter.
For the first time I started to get a sense of, well, rhythm. My gut was telling me that, stopping to eat,drink,
rearrange bags, etc. was wasting my precious rage and that waiting to start the next non-boss pull with no built
up rage was not wise.
Now I do not mean that we shouldn't heal or regen mana but rather to do it fast even if that means burning through
quite a few pots. Am I nuts ?
Edited, Sep 10th 2008 1:20pm by JDLKY
instance experience: 1)Bear Tank, 2)Tree Healer, 3)BM Hunter.
For the first time I started to get a sense of, well, rhythm. My gut was telling me that, stopping to eat,drink,
rearrange bags, etc. was wasting my precious rage and that waiting to start the next non-boss pull with no built
up rage was not wise.
Now I do not mean that we shouldn't heal or regen mana but rather to do it fast even if that means burning through
quite a few pots. Am I nuts ?
Edited, Sep 10th 2008 1:20pm by JDLKY
I love being a tank, because I have to decide how "fast" the instance is being done. If the healer has enough mana to heal me and the pull is not hairy (like those 6 pulls from Shattered Halls), I will pull. If the mana dependant DPS weren't drinking, that's their problem. I mean, I won't wait 5 minutes between pulls because some casters aren't ready because they forgot to drink. If they are drinking, they can finish and I will have time to build good aggro. I will never pull if I believe the healer might go oom in a pull.
Usually, after the first few pulls, people get how I tank and they are pretty happy with it. Why take 4 hours to do an instance when you can do it in 90 minutes?!
And when healing, I hate for the tank to tell me WHEN to drink. I mean, I am a tree healer, if I end up the fight with less than 80% something is not good (either the tank is under geared or the dps are pulling agro). I know that if the pull is over and I need mana I will drink; I don't have someone to "remind" me what I should do.
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I will pull. If the mana dependant DPS weren't drinking, that's their problem
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I'm not sure what your question is. You shouldn't be switching out of bear between pulls, you should be pulling as soon as your healer has enough mana. That being said, 3 70s should be able to rip through strat. One 70 can solo it pretty easily.
I wasn't switching out of bear. If I intimated that I erred. But what you said about the healers confirms my feel; the
tank says "when", subject to the healer's veto.
It sounds like you're a bit concerned about rage loss. I do a few little tricks to keep rage from degenerating. The obvious one is to enrage when out of combat; it prevents degeneration and increases rage. The not as obvious one is to FFF critters. I do this all the time in instance runs, and what it does is it puts me in combat for ~30 seconds (unless its a crab or one of the ones that attacks you and you have thorns) and prevents rage degeneration. I've been doing this ever since i found out about it when i tank runs and it help loads imo.
On the topic of mana (for your teammates), you should, if you don't already know them, ask at about what percentage they will need to drink for an average trash pull. Now, it should be obvious to stop if they are completely oom, but there are some people that may be fine for another trash pull at as low as 30% mana (they may be low on water or something). Also, make sure you allow people to drink up to full for some of the much harder pulls; large groups and bosses are the most common.
Edited, Sep 10th 2008 10:14pm by genomscream
On the topic of mana (for your teammates), you should, if you don't already know them, ask at about what percentage they will need to drink for an average trash pull. Now, it should be obvious to stop if they are completely oom, but there are some people that may be fine for another trash pull at as low as 30% mana (they may be low on water or something). Also, make sure you allow people to drink up to full for some of the much harder pulls; large groups and bosses are the most common.
Edited, Sep 10th 2008 10:14pm by genomscream
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