ello,
I've started to lvl a rogue (going fine so far, and lots of fun :D ). I'm full sub specc (lvl 43) and just got "Premeditation" and cant find a good combo to use it in (will waste a combo-point if I use it in my normal rotation/combo).
Here's my rotation/combo that I use while questing:
Cheap shot
Backstap
Kidney shot
Hemorrhage
Ghostly strike
SnD
Hemorrhage (until the mob is dead)
Hope some1 can help me with a good combo to my new talent :)
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well, since it can only be used in stealth i don't know why you're actually asking this. It goes in front of whatever chain you want to make.
I'd do premed, CS, hemo to build up 5 combopoints (so u only need one more), KS then KS might give you a combo point / or you use hemo untill you get one or two combopoints and then use slice and dice. If the mobs is dead, move on to the next. If he's still alive, use Ghostly strike for evasion "tanking".
If you accidently pulled 2 or more mobs in total use evasion.
Why use backstab AND hemo? I'm scared to ask for your spec now btw.
Edited, Sep 10th 2008 1:47pm by samperor
I'd do premed, CS, hemo to build up 5 combopoints (so u only need one more), KS then KS might give you a combo point / or you use hemo untill you get one or two combopoints and then use slice and dice. If the mobs is dead, move on to the next. If he's still alive, use Ghostly strike for evasion "tanking".
If you accidently pulled 2 or more mobs in total use evasion.
Why use backstab AND hemo? I'm scared to ask for your spec now btw.
Edited, Sep 10th 2008 1:47pm by samperor
well.. I use backstab and hemo cuz I'm sub specc (dunno what specc is the fastest to lvl with etc.. but plz let me know if there's combo / specc thats way better than what I already does..
THIS is my specc / gear
THIS is my specc / gear
ok, i'm going to be the nice guy here. Theo and the others will probably not have the energy left to properly flame you.
Really? I had hoped that, i dunno, stickies would be read if you had 100 posts on this site.
Only other piece of advice i can give you is try to get rings that don't have spirit + stam but more agi and/or ATK and/or strength + stam. Getting decent rings can be a pain tho at lower levels.
Good luck. You'll need it.
Edited, Sep 10th 2008 5:57pm by samperor
sensen wrote:
dunno what specc is the fastest to lvl with etc
Really? I had hoped that, i dunno, stickies would be read if you had 100 posts on this site.
Only other piece of advice i can give you is try to get rings that don't have spirit + stam but more agi and/or ATK and/or strength + stam. Getting decent rings can be a pain tho at lower levels.
Good luck. You'll need it.
Edited, Sep 10th 2008 5:57pm by samperor
havn't read all the stickies yet :P but my main question was if any1 had a nice combo for "Premeditation" ;) and about the rings, I'm working on it but hard to find ring with that kinda stats from quests, mobs etc. tho I'm getting a new ring from zf quest soon ;)
sensen wrote:
havn't read all the stickies yet :P but my main question was if any1 had a nice combo for "Premeditation" ;) and about the rings, I'm working on it but hard to find ring with that kinda stats from quests, mobs etc. tho I'm getting a new ring from zf quest soon ;)
Hey, why read something where 90% of info about the rogue class is given and will--odds are--answer your questions without you having to irritate the users of this forum into flaming you?
Oh, right, you're not that smart.
Carry on, half-wit.
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Hey, why read something where 90% of info about the rogue class is given...?
Don't be dumb. That would actually take five minutes of effort. I'm sure his finger is sore from clicking Hemo, so give him a break.
My normal rotation for premed is Premed+opener+other stuff.
I actually have it in a macro with my cheap shot, so whenever it goes off it's like a pleasant surprise, "Woot, time to energy pool before a KS."
I actually have it in a macro with my cheap shot, so whenever it goes off it's like a pleasant surprise, "Woot, time to energy pool before a KS."
okay smartass rogues, I've read your godly stickies and guess what? I cant see sh*t about comboes where you use "premeditation" :O that was my question from the beginning, yes it was just scroll up and read!
Do you know an effective combo or not?! that my god damn question, but keep on flaming if you want!
anyway, have a nice day :)
Edit: this post is made while the post before was posted (#7), thanks alot for your answer :)
Edited, Sep 10th 2008 3:35pm by sensen
Do you know an effective combo or not?! that my god damn question, but keep on flaming if you want!
anyway, have a nice day :)
Edit: this post is made while the post before was posted (#7), thanks alot for your answer :)
Edited, Sep 10th 2008 3:35pm by sensen
sensen wrote:
okay smartass rogues, I've read your godly stickies and guess what? I cant see sh*t about comboes where you use "premeditation"
Oh, sorry. I left out the completely obvious stuff like HOW TO PUSH A ******* BUTTON.
OH MAN I CANT USE THIS OUT OF STEALTH AND IT GIVES ME TWO COMBO POINTS?
OH HEY, CS GIVES ME 3 THATS CONVENIENT, I START WITH 5 COMBO POINTS
Are you seriously that ******* stupid?
You could always use:
/cast Premeditation
/cast Cheapshot
I think that's what I have macroed. It allows me to use Premed every time it's up. Unfortunately, it does, occasionally, bug and not allow me to CS - think a "Pause".
It doesn't happen very often at all, but when it does, it's annoying as hell.
EDIT: Sorry Eon, I didn't see/read your post, I promise I wasn't trying to steal your thunder. :(
Edited, Sep 10th 2008 4:12pm by DetroitRock
/cast Premeditation
/cast Cheapshot
I think that's what I have macroed. It allows me to use Premed every time it's up. Unfortunately, it does, occasionally, bug and not allow me to CS - think a "Pause".
It doesn't happen very often at all, but when it does, it's annoying as hell.
EDIT: Sorry Eon, I didn't see/read your post, I promise I wasn't trying to steal your thunder. :(
Edited, Sep 10th 2008 4:12pm by DetroitRock
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Oh, sorry. I left out the completely obvious stuff like HOW TO PUSH A @#%^ING BUTTON.
OH MAN I CANT USE THIS OUT OF STEALTH AND IT GIVES ME TWO COMBO POINTS?
OH HEY, CS GIVES ME 3 THATS CONVENIENT, I START WITH 5 COMBO POINTS
OH MAN I CANT USE THIS OUT OF STEALTH AND IT GIVES ME TWO COMBO POINTS?
OH HEY, CS GIVES ME 3 THATS CONVENIENT, I START WITH 5 COMBO POINTS
Dude, get a life..
I'm asking cuz my normal "combo" + premeditation give me 6combo points = 1 wasted point!
anyway, if this is too much asking without getting flamed then what can we ask on this forum?!
Every1 but theophany, have a nice day :)
No, it's not possible to get 6 combo points.
CS gives 3 with Initiative (talent). Premed gives you 2.
3 + 2 = 5.
You're an idiot.
CS gives 3 with Initiative (talent). Premed gives you 2.
3 + 2 = 5.
You're an idiot.
well.. read my first post dumbass - there you will see my "combo" including backstab before doing KS for more dmg, 3+2+backstab = 6!
sensen wrote:
well.. read my first post dumbass - there you will see my "combo" including backstab before doing KS for more dmg, 3+2+backstab = 6!
Wow, usually I defend against Theo's poor attitude, but you deserve it. If you have 5 combo points, why the hell would you use a backstab next? That waisted 6th combo point only occurs because you're creating that 6th combo point needlessly.
If you need to come onto the forums to ask if you should use a finishing move when you have 5 combo points, then you have bigger issues to deal with.
OMG MY COMBO POINTS ARE FULL WHAT DO I DO
I KNOW ILL DO ANOTHER MOVE THAT GENERATES A COMBO POINT TAKING ME TO...
OH **** COMBO POINTS ONLY GO TO 5? WTF
I KNOW ILL DO ANOTHER MOVE THAT GENERATES A COMBO POINT TAKING ME TO...
OH **** COMBO POINTS ONLY GO TO 5? WTF
sensen wrote:
well.. read my first post dumbass - there you will see my "combo" including backstab before doing KS for more dmg, 3+2+backstab = 6!
Dumb rogue is dumb.
That is all.
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Wow, usually I defend against Theo's poor attitude, but you deserve it. If you have 5 combo points, why the hell would you use a backstab next?
Well.. this is what I've tried to ask all the time, what should I use instead of backstab? cuz I use it only to do some extra dmg while w8ing for CS to run out and then KS! :)
sensen wrote:
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Wow, usually I defend against Theo's poor attitude, but you deserve it. If you have 5 combo points, why the hell would you use a backstab next?
Well.. this is what I've tried to ask all the time, what should I use instead of backstab? cuz I use it only to do some extra dmg while w8ing for CS to run out and then KS! :)
Seriously? Using your own combo
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Cheap shot
Backstap
Kidney shot
Hemorrhage
Ghostly strike
SnD
Hemorrhage (until the mob is dead)
Adding Premed now.
Premed
CS
KS
Backstab
Hemo
SnD
Ghostly
Hemo
That's just with minor tweaking of your own personal playstyle. Really not that hard to figure out. Arguing with Theo is not the way to go, especially when you don't have a leg to stand on. This combo didn't take rocket science to figure out, it was working for you before, a minor tweak and it works for you again. If it's the best possible combo, I don't know, but that's not what you asked for in your post.
*Giggles*
This thread + rogue forums = pure win.
This thread + rogue forums = pure win.
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Adding Premed now.
Premed
CS
KS
Backstab
Hemo
SnD
Ghostly
Hemo
Premed
CS
KS
Backstab
Hemo
SnD
Ghostly
Hemo
Well.. I already figured out this combo but was interested in a combo where I dont have to waste a combo point and doing the same or even more dmg, but thanks anyway :)
I guess I have to live with the wasted combo point :(
sensen wrote:
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Adding Premed now.
Premed
CS
KS
Backstab
Hemo
SnD
Ghostly
Hemo
Premed
CS
KS
Backstab
Hemo
SnD
Ghostly
Hemo
Well.. I already figured out this combo but was interested in a combo where I dont have to waste a combo point and doing the same or even more dmg, but thanks anyway :)
I guess I have to live with the wasted combo point :(
.... you're a little slow
Premed (2 combo points)
CS (2 combo points, more than likely 3 with initiate)
KS (Kidney shot, this is a finishing move, you lose all your combo points)
Backstab (back to 1 combo point)
Home(up to 2 now)
SnD (another finishing move, you lose them al again)
No waisted combo points...
Never having played a Sub spec, I may be misunderstanding, but isn't the OP's question really based on the fact that using Premed, he's at 5CP before CS wears off (if not immediately), so it seems a little redundant to move straight into a KS when the mob's still stunned?
Waiting for energy to refill would be one obvious option (better than overlapping stuns, anyway), but if that doesn't take the duration of the CS, I can't see any reason why you wouldn't sling an extra attack in there?
Waiting for energy to refill would be one obvious option (better than overlapping stuns, anyway), but if that doesn't take the duration of the CS, I can't see any reason why you wouldn't sling an extra attack in there?
zhaharik wrote:
Never having played a Sub spec, I may be misunderstanding, but isn't the OP's question really based on the fact that using Premed, he's at 5CP before CS wears off (if not immediately), so it seems a little redundant to move straight into a KS when the mob's still stunned?
Waiting for energy to refill would be one obvious option (better than overlapping stuns, anyway), but if that doesn't take the duration of the CS, I can't see any reason why you wouldn't sling an extra attack in there?
Waiting for energy to refill would be one obvious option (better than overlapping stuns, anyway), but if that doesn't take the duration of the CS, I can't see any reason why you wouldn't sling an extra attack in there?
I didn't say it was his best option, just an option. But about the CS > KS a little redundant, yeah. But you get 1.5 seconds from the CS stun before you can apply the KS because of GCD so you are getting a 7.5 second stun. Like I said it's one of many options. He could Premed > CS > Eviscerate > Gouge > Backstab > SdD > Ghostly > Hemo...
It doesn't really matter, this combo is for solo grinding. If he wanted to be the most efficient at it, he would be combat swords. So in the long run of things, whatever kills the mob works.
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I have to agree w/ Moz here. This is exactly what I came on here to find. This is the entertainment I need to pass the slow part of work. Thanks OP, you made my day.
He's using Backstab...and Hemo...he's unsing Hemo with a dagger...
EPIC FAIL.
And this thread shows how stupid people can be.
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EPIC FAIL.
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