DPS confusionFollow

As SV, you should be doing a 1:1.5, and a 1:1 only when you reach Rapid Fire/DST/Drums/Bloodlust haste ratings. BM really does dominate for DPS because of serpent's swiftness, which gives a ton of haste and therefore a ton of DPS.

You gemmed horribly. You have a strength gem, ap gems, etc. You should be using hit/agility or hit until hit capped, then two agility/stamina for the meta requirement, the rest agility.

I doubt you could get close to 1.5k with your gear, and as SV. You're not too bad though, gear wise. Save up for the badge chest if you can.

Check the buffs tab on cheeky's as well. His default buff setup puts me just shy of 2K dps, while without any it reads me as around 1100.

What you posted wouldn't result in a 1:1.5 and would play absolute hell on you GCD.

A 1:1.5 would be:

Auto-Steady-Arc-Auto-Steady-Auto-Steady-Multi-Auto-Steady repeat.


I wouldn't macro survival if you can avoid it. Go out to doc boom and practice hand weaving. Helps when you have to adjust to iAotH procs, Rapid Fire, Hero/BL, etc.

Spreadsheets will only give you absolutely ideal numbers. It assumes that you are standing completely still and never have to waste a GCD, never have to move out of the way of something, and your shot rotation is always perfect, and your latency doesn't ***** it up. They almost always average out shots, rather than randomly generate numbers and crits.

And if you're going to stay survival, you need to focus on Agi as your main stat. Don't gem anything but Agi

A 1:1.5 or 1:1.4 will do more DPS than a 3:2 for SV, and if you are concerned about switching to a 1:1 with haste, just set it to a keybind close to your 1:1.5. I have one on mousewheel down, and one on mousewheel up.

There seems to be a lot of different views on what a proper 1:1.5 rotation is. Is there a post somewhere, that has such a macro shown (that works with the latest patches)? I have never even heard of the 1.4 one untill your post, although I imagine one could make up almost any number if one was to take the time and work that stuff out.

1:1.4 is what the macro commonly called 1:1.5 actually does for most hunters

/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/castsequence reset=3/target !auto shot, steady shot
/castrandom arcane shot, multi-shot
/cast [exists,target=pettarget,nodead] kill command
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1

To make it a true 1:1.5, you can either have a certain amount of haste (not sure how much), or you can have the 4-piece PvP gear bonus. It's pretty debatable whether or not having that much PvP gear for a survival hunter would be beneficial to achieve a true 1:1.5 rotation, though.

Oi! Numbers swirling around in my head now, and my wife has me playing on her dart team now as well, more numbers!

Anyhoo......

Testing on Dr. Boom this evening:

1. Hunter mark, aimed shot, then started in with my 3:2 macro, and just sitting back spamming that button resulted in 450ish dps. My mana barely moves doing this routine.

2. same start, then just letting the new 1.4 macro (as posted earlier) do its thing resulted in a paltry 297. This macro seemed to set itself off and didnt require any manual spamming.

3. Same start procedure, 1.4 macro, but manually weaving in specials (arcane/multi mostly) with the odd aimed, and lots of steady shots, resulted in a max of 850....much better! Chewed through mana damn fast though.

Then after hearthing back I noticed I still had my horde pvp medallion on from arena earlier, instead of my assassins alchy stone..doh!

Edited, Sep 10th 2008 10:49pm by Xizervexius

This is a horrible macro, ESPECIALLY for Gruul's Lair. Can anyone tell me why?

I use 2 variations of that macro (off of TKAsomething). One uses both Arcane/Multi and one just has arcane. I label them "CC" and "NoCC". If I'm not expecting schackled, poly'd or trapped targets, then I use the Arcane/Multi one. Multi does tremendous DPS. If I have to watch out for CC, then I just use the arcane one.

I went back to Dr. Boom and did 1:1, 3:2 and 1:1.5 using both Valanos and Surestrike- both at max skill. I discovered that 1:1.5 worked best pulling in well over 700 dps, no buffs, Viper, and no HM. Surestrike did ~600dps in the same configuration, but oddly, it did almost the same in 1:1.

Clearly the weapon speed factor is there but so is the Haste from BM spec. If it doesn't proc while doing 1:1, at least for me, 1:1 is a dps killer. I'm sure if I had more haste gear/gems it would work better.

So, I stick with Valanos' and 1:1.5. In Raids, I flirt with 1000dps in nearly every bossfight and have gone over that. However, due to mana, I can't sustain it for the entire fight if we don't have enough dps to down the boss quickly enough. I know that if I'm 15% or more ahead of #2 dps, I'm going to have to swap back to a 1:1/3:2 macro and weave in the specials when I get the chance. I hope WSSR drops before WotLK comes out. I'd like to have a better weapon going into the next 3-4 levels.

Midnight is right about the other things you may have to do messing up your timing so realize that you may have to switch to a different rotation macro depending on what you are doing at a given moment. One advantage of BM is the group usually just wants you there for DPS!