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#1 Sep 09 2008 at 10:17 AM Rating: Default
Hi

On my rogue im a bit ahead of my LP level. Im almost in lvl 53 and have only 167 in LP. I have pickpocketed trolls in STRV for AGES, and it seems that it could take forever.

Isn't there any way I can boost my LP lvl to 175 or so so I can get my LP up to my "right" level.

I have read tons of guides, but is it really only me that have big problems getting from 165 to 175???
#2 Sep 09 2008 at 10:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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Macro for the win:

/cast Pick Pocket
/cast Cheap Shot


You can use the above sample for all your openers. With it, you will be swimming in lockboxes to pick.

Also, read the f*&%#ing sticky.
#3 Sep 09 2008 at 11:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Therion got fed up enough to swear at someone!!!!!

EDIT: The beauty of the internet. Click Me. Try Angor Fortress, the footlockers, in the badlands. Spend an hour there and you are set. Just remember they don't always respawn in the same spot.



Edited, Sep 9th 2008 3:10pm by ThomasMagnum

Edited, Sep 9th 2008 3:12pm by ThomasMagnum
#4 Sep 09 2008 at 11:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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ThomasMagnum wrote:
Therion got fed up enough to swear at someone!!!!!

Funny thing is, I curse like a drunken sailor in RL.

Cheers f#%&ers!
#5 Sep 09 2008 at 12:29 PM Rating: Good
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There is NO excuse for not knowing where to level up LP... SINCE YOUR DAMN ROGU TRAINER TELLS YOU WHERE!!! (click your trainer, you have several options: get trainer, reset your skill points, ask where to level up LP).

From the two mentioned for this part... DON'T go to the fortress. I tried it, it's pretty ****** with only 4-5 boxes, very slow respawn. I got stuck very quickly.

Go to Desolace, there is a spot in the water where there are about 25 spawn points. You can litterally swin in a circle and LP at leat one per circle. Other option (what I did) is to take all the boxes, wait 10 min while watching TV, take another 12 boxes, another TV break, another 12 boxes and you're up to 235 (I went from 165 to 235 in about 45 min max).

nostra
#6 Sep 09 2008 at 5:50 PM Rating: Good
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Aye, rateups for nostra for correcting my advice, and rateups for therion, for f*cks sake :)

#7 Sep 11 2008 at 8:08 AM Rating: Default
So am i looking for the chests or the mobs to PP?
#8 Sep 11 2008 at 8:54 AM Rating: Decent
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fredesuperman wrote:
So am i looking for the chests or the mobs to PP?


I like to go peepee on my fallen comrades.
#9 Sep 11 2008 at 9:01 AM Rating: Good
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Both. C'mon man use your head.
#10 Sep 11 2008 at 10:01 AM Rating: Good
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MentalFrog wrote:
fredesuperman wrote:
So am i looking for the chests or the mobs to PP?


I like to go peepee on my fallen comrades.


I got tea bagged by an undead while he cannibalized me after I got ganked...
#11 Sep 11 2008 at 11:05 AM Rating: Good
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So am i looking for the chests or the mobs to PP?

I get the feeling we're being toyed with by a regular with an alt Alla login... But for the benefit of lurkers reading this:

You will be using the above macro on all mobs you attack which will supply you with a good amount of Lock Boxes and a few copper/silver on the side. If you're killing level-appropriate mobs, you will get level-appropriate boxes to pick.

Chests are a bonus unless you specifically seek them out to grind. I found that I only needed to grind once for about 30 min (in Desolace) and maybe one extra round of mob grinding in Durnholde. Pick pocketed lock boxes kept me at max lock picking skill all the way to 70 other than that.

Can we kill this thread now?
#12 Sep 12 2008 at 3:57 AM Rating: Good
TherionSaysWhat wrote:
Can we kill this thread now?

Not yet.

I have that macro, and it's great when used with Sap instead of Cheap Shot.

When I use the Cheap Shot macro (or Ambush, or Garrote), I actually loot the coin, and if there are items, I don't get them before my Rogue auto-attacks (thus closing my loot window). It might be because of my lag (although with a macro and autoloot, I'd expect lag to be a non-issue), but it also might be something else that you could help with.

Any ideas?
#13 Sep 12 2008 at 4:25 AM Rating: Good
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Overlord danieldakkak wrote:
TherionSaysWhat wrote:
Can we kill this thread now?

Not yet.

I have that macro, and it's great when used with Sap instead of Cheap Shot.

When I use the Cheap Shot macro (or Ambush, or Garrote), I actually loot the coin, and if there are items, I don't get them before my Rogue auto-attacks (thus closing my loot window). It might be because of my lag (although with a macro and autoloot, I'd expect lag to be a non-issue), but it also might be something else that you could help with.

Any ideas?


It might very well be your lag. I play with very bad lag, in the region of 500-600 ms (world location - nothing I can do about it). I tried a PP / CS macro once, and it last all of about 2 or 3 mobs, my attack started before looting finished. I gave it up as a bad joke, committing to make sure I Pickpocketed and opened in 2 moves.

Ofc, I forgot to do it most of the time, which left me at level 63, and 165 lockpicking. So I went to a cave in Windshear crag in STM (chests there got me to 175), then pickpocketing mobs in ZF for lockboxes (got me to around 225 in no time at all), then grinding chests in the Pirate cove in Tanaris (got me all the way to 300). Fortunately, pickpocketing any mobs in outlands give max level lockboxes, which you can use to skill up all the way to 350.
#14 Sep 12 2008 at 5:21 AM Rating: Decent
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This is a known issue. Normally, it happens very rarely. If you have bad lag, then you'll have to have a head to compensate and remember to PP before you attack.

My advice: do NOT fall behind with your PP. If you're current with your PP skills, you can level up easily once you're around 200. If you fall behind, you'll have to farm when you're 70, which sucks (you have enough other good reasons to farm already!).

nostra
#15 Sep 12 2008 at 11:48 PM Rating: Good
The lockpicking guide in the sticky is ********* It's half done, gives the wrong information, and complicates an otherwise simple process. It was written in 2004. It was last updated in 2005. If you're going to tell someone to read the sticky, make sure the sticky you're referring them to isn't full of outdated and irrelevant information.

For the 125-175 stretch, I took a cruise around the goblin area of central STV. I didn't even bother killing them...nor would you need to at level 53...you'd have to pretty much run directly through them for them to attack you, so just leave 'em be to save time. Just do a big circuit, starting at the lumber mill next to the river and go clockwise around the perimeter of the goblin area. Pickpocket every goblin you come across. When you come back around to the lumber mill, you'll notice a very small little house directly (as in...< 10 yards away) SE of the lumber mill. Inside is a locked box (I believe it requires 160 lockpicking). Pick that box. Pick the rest of the lockboxes (Worn?) in your inventory that you picked up on your first circuit. Start the circuit over again. By now, the pockets of the goblins you already picked will have reset and you can carry on.

If I'm not mistaken, the lockboxes you'll be getting from the goblins will go grey at 170. Just keep doing the circuit (free flash powder is always good) and by the time you get back to the little hut, it'll be able to grant you another skillup. (You can pick it until you're blue in the face one attempt after another, but there appears to be a cooldown after one pick that has to expire before you can get another skillup from it). Once you hit 175, you can start picking all of the Sturdy Junkboxes you've picked up along the way.

I tried following the Rogue trainer's suggestions on where to go to level my lockpicking, but the places I was sent to were crap. Slow, hard to find the lockboxes, spread out, lots of travel...bleh. The one place I found where lockboxes are incredibly plentiful were the Slag Pits in Searing Gorge. Awesome skillups there. Between the Sturdy Junkboxes and the footlockers all over the place, I got about 30 points to my lockpicking skill just questing through there

Picking pockets for junkboxes has been the source of the overwhelming majority of the skillups I've seen to date. It's easy, it's something you can do while questing (as opposed to making a specific trip somewhere looking for footlockers or spamming trade to pick boxes for tips), and it keeps you well stocked with poison supplies and flash powder (my rogue hasn't had to buy poison reagents since I was in my low 30s, and I just hit 53 tonight. I also have 73 flash powder that I didn't pay a copper for).

Even if there are numerous places with tons of footlockers, it's still more than likely going to mean a special trip to get to them. Barring all else, that's something you can do. I'd much rather just keep on top of my lockpicking as I quest/grind without having to limit myself to specific areas. Dwarves have it good for finding footlockers. For me, it was just a tedious pain in the ***.

Edited, Sep 13th 2008 1:00am by AureliusSir
#16 Sep 13 2008 at 12:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Alright, I'll put a lockpicking sticky in my Compendium.

"GO TO YOUR ******* ROGUE TRAINER AND ASK HIM YOU IDIOT."
#17 Sep 13 2008 at 12:50 AM Rating: Decent
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Alright, I'll put a lockpicking sticky in my Compendium.

"GO TO YOUR @#%^ING ROGUE TRAINER AND ASK HIM YOU IDIOT."


Rogue trainer will send you to find footlockers. Footlockers are tedious. First you have to travel to them. Rarely are they located where you want to spend any amount of time doing other things. Then, once you're there, you have to find the footlockers to pick them, and often you have to clear trash from around them.

Pick pockets. Open junkboxes. If you have to bridge a gap somewhere, then find some appropriate level footlockers. And I believe there has been some confusion about where exactly the Rogue trainer will send you. I've heard that he sends you to an area appropriate for your class level (regardless of what your lockpicking skill is at) which is entirely useless if you've let your lockpicking slide.

Forget the friggin' trainers. Their information is about as useful as the sticky here.
#18 Sep 13 2008 at 1:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Alright.

"USE A ******* MACRO TO PICKPOCKET.

IF YOU CANT LEVEL OFF THE BOXES YOURE GETTING, GO TO THE ******* ROGUE TRAINER."

Done.
#19 Sep 13 2008 at 10:07 AM Rating: Decent
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i lvled more on footlockers while questing then pickpockets, tbh. Probably 75/25 in terms of percentage. Either way, it's not hard, and this thread should be burnt.
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