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I know that this has kinda been covered before, but why is it whenever we pick a lock we are lucky to get about a 2g tip. whereas an enchanter who does nothing but cast a spell onto the item gets anywhere between 5g to 25g depending on server and enchant. I understand that if the enchanter pays for the mats then yes, he should get money for them. I know some enchants are extremely hard to get. but at the same time, its not something you can actively farm for. they are just like world drops. you just gotta be lucky. So I guess what I am asking is why rogues get cheatedfor picking locks, when enchanters get nice tips for it. We are both just providing a service we have spent time on mastering.
Is this seriously a post? What have these forums come to? Theo please flame so I can laugh and co-sign. The ignorance is getting thick in here.
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I thought it was a completely legit question.
Because Lockpicking isn't a profession...
Did you spend THOUSANDS of gold to get it to maximum level? No? Then why the **** should you be getting paid?
Do you tip a mage when they make food/water, **** no. It's free to them.
Did you spend THOUSANDS of gold to get it to maximum level? No? Then why the **** should you be getting paid?
Do you tip a mage when they make food/water, **** no. It's free to them.
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but at the same time I have an enchanter and I haven't really spent any money getting him up. just de'ing and using the mats from that.
Sorry Myteddy I forgot that you too like to flame idiotic posts. Good point on the mage water/food. Same with soulstones/healthstones/summons. That actually costs warlocks a shard. Man I don't know what I would do without the Rogue forums on allakhazam.
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tommyeitrigg wrote:
but at the same time I have an enchanter and I haven't really spent any money getting him up. just de'ing and using the mats from that.
You're not going to get it if you don't want to get it.
You did spend money leveling your enchanting. You could have sold those mats, and made thousands if you leveled to cap. Open your mind to the possibility.
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true, I understand the points on it all, but I did also spend time grinding my lockpicking up. It was made a lot easier by stealth.
This post actually made me slam my head on my desk, attempting to induce a coma.
That's how much of a ******* idiot you are, OP.
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That's how much of a ******* idiot you are, OP.
HAY GUYZ I SPENT TIME 2 LVL DIS SO I NEED MUNY FOR IT NEVERMIND THAT IT BENEFITS ME 2
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I didn't spend any time leveling my lockpicking to 350... when I got to 70 it was already 350. If you used the Pickpocket->Cheap Shot macro you would've gathered enough Junkboxes easily each level to do that. It's the fact that so many people aren't smart enough to think ahead.
Even not doing that getting to 350 at 70 wouldn't take more then 2-3 hours maybe with 0G spent. That's why we get low tips.
Even not doing that getting to 350 at 70 wouldn't take more then 2-3 hours maybe with 0G spent. That's why we get low tips.
For all of you newer rogues, DO NOT grind your lock-picking, there's no need. L2Macro:
/cast Pick Pocket
/cast Garrote (or Cheap Shot, or whatever)
You may get a few that resist the Pick Pocket and ruin your opener. Don't panic. I've found them to be less than 1%. But from the successful attempts you'll be swimming in lock boxes which will keep your lock-picking up to speed, no problem. Added bonus: massive amounts of poison making supplies in those lock boxes.
To the OP: There is absolutely no comparison between grinding for an hour in Desolace to the horror of maxing out Enchanting; or, dare I say it, Jewelcrafting /shudder. The time and gold investment is huge after 330 or so. It's like comparing apples to Martian dust storms.
/cast Pick Pocket
/cast Garrote (or Cheap Shot, or whatever)
You may get a few that resist the Pick Pocket and ruin your opener. Don't panic. I've found them to be less than 1%. But from the successful attempts you'll be swimming in lock boxes which will keep your lock-picking up to speed, no problem. Added bonus: massive amounts of poison making supplies in those lock boxes.
To the OP: There is absolutely no comparison between grinding for an hour in Desolace to the horror of maxing out Enchanting; or, dare I say it, Jewelcrafting /shudder. The time and gold investment is huge after 330 or so. It's like comparing apples to Martian dust storms.
tommyeitrigg wrote:
true, I understand the points on it all, but I did also spend time grinding my lockpicking up. It was made a lot easier by stealth.
FFS, the effort required to level lockpicketing to max is INFINITELY LESS than the effort required to level Enchanting to Max ...
I would love to be able to have levelled my enchanting from 50 - 300 in about 2-3 hours, with absolutely no cost (implicit or explicit), the same thing I did with lockipicking ... (And that's because I got lazy and stopped levelling Lockpicking while I levelled - sheesh, it only takes 5 lock-picks per level) but it's never gonna happen.
Stop arguing your point ... because it is a NON point.
Can't help but laugh when people are all pickpocket wut? Blue quality gems, free poison mats, and (as small as it may be...) chance at getting and selling a Spine Sever to someone for an easy 1.5k makes me glad to have a rogue. And as far as tipping...if anything, I find most over tip. Lost count how many toss 5g up for an eternium or khorium box. Honestly, anymore I toss the skill on the box and wait 2 sec, no tip, click trade. Should just look at it as a bonus, there's plenty of other rogues out there to open them.
Off topic, but would be great to have an addon to track money you get from pick pocketing/junk boxes. Always been curious how many hundreds I've gotten over the past few years, so tedious too...making money while grinding lock picking. QQ.
Off topic, but would be great to have an addon to track money you get from pick pocketing/junk boxes. Always been curious how many hundreds I've gotten over the past few years, so tedious too...making money while grinding lock picking. QQ.
And I love how the OP is not only an idiot, he also ignored the sticky. You know..the one that says...
WOW LOCKPICKING FAQ
WOW LOCKPICKING FAQ
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Do you tip a mage when they make food/water, @#%^ no. It's free to them.
Heh, I bet the mages are glad our lot doesn't hang around at their forum a lot =P
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Edited, Sep 9th 2008 9:25am by ThomasMagnum
Edited, Sep 9th 2008 9:25am by ThomasMagnum
I would never try to make money with Lockpicking. The most i ever make from 1 box was 10g. I guess the guy was desperate. lol
1 or 2G per box, depending on if I had to port anywhere to get it done.
Also an extra 5G if it contains a BoE blue with any chance to sell well. I know the contents were predetermined, but I'll say it was your luck.
Also an extra 5G if it contains a BoE blue with any chance to sell well. I know the contents were predetermined, but I'll say it was your luck.
ThomasMagnum wrote:
1. If you want to make money lockpicking, spam your location opening boxes for free w/ tipping appreciated on top of org bank. You'll make plenty of money, you whiny non-sticky-reading nub.
If you want to make money then lock picking is the last thing you should be doing.
Ehcks wrote:
1 or 2G per box, depending on if I had to port anywhere to get it done.
Also an extra 5G if it contains a BoE blue with any chance to sell well. I know the contents were predetermined, but I'll say it was your luck.
Also an extra 5G if it contains a BoE blue with any chance to sell well. I know the contents were predetermined, but I'll say it was your luck.
I'm sorry, but you ask them for gold AFTER they find out what the contents are?
Either you're a very good salesperson, or the people you're helping are exceedingly gullible.
Gratz if you can get it to work.
Ehcks wrote:
1 or 2G per box, depending on if I had to port anywhere to get it done.
Also an extra 5G if it contains a BoE blue with any chance to sell well. I know the contents were predetermined, but I'll say it was your luck.
Also an extra 5G if it contains a BoE blue with any chance to sell well. I know the contents were predetermined, but I'll say it was your luck.
You've never had someone say @#%^ you?
I would.
Edited, Sep 8th 2008 12:51pm by MYteddy
Overlord Theophany wrote:
This post actually made me slam my head on my desk, attempting to induce a coma.
That's how much of a @#%^ing idiot you are, OP.
HAY GUYZ I SPENT TIME 2 LVL DIS SO I NEED MUNY FOR IT NEVERMIND THAT IT BENEFITS ME 2
That's how much of a @#%^ing idiot you are, OP.
HAY GUYZ I SPENT TIME 2 LVL DIS SO I NEED MUNY FOR IT NEVERMIND THAT IT BENEFITS ME 2
Haha. You never seem to fail me Theo.
On the same page. This guy is a moron. I hope he replies more so I can rate him down some more for not paying attention.
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I'll give a more moderate answer for once.
Comparing LP to DE is dumb, because one costs lot of money to level up AND takes lot of efforts/money to get the rare enchant receipies.
BUT the OP has one good point: it does take some efforts to level up LP because there ARE levels where you won't be able to level it up easily through quests (as in the beginning) or pickpocketed boxes (like in the later levels) and you DO need to go farm the chests (just done that in Desolace to get my reroll from 170 to 230).
It is annoying to farm so and, in facts, not even every rogue does it (I have had lvl 70 rogues asking me to LP their boxes). Which shows that there is some value in LP and that a small tip is not ridiculous. When I LP, I expect 1 gold or at least a "could you please LP?"... "thanks". If I don't get a small tip or a polite request, the guy gets no LP from me, period.
nostra
Edited, Sep 9th 2008 10:01am by nostraaa
Comparing LP to DE is dumb, because one costs lot of money to level up AND takes lot of efforts/money to get the rare enchant receipies.
BUT the OP has one good point: it does take some efforts to level up LP because there ARE levels where you won't be able to level it up easily through quests (as in the beginning) or pickpocketed boxes (like in the later levels) and you DO need to go farm the chests (just done that in Desolace to get my reroll from 170 to 230).
It is annoying to farm so and, in facts, not even every rogue does it (I have had lvl 70 rogues asking me to LP their boxes). Which shows that there is some value in LP and that a small tip is not ridiculous. When I LP, I expect 1 gold or at least a "could you please LP?"... "thanks". If I don't get a small tip or a polite request, the guy gets no LP from me, period.
nostra
Edited, Sep 9th 2008 10:01am by nostraaa
I don't expect a tip, but it is nice to get once and a while. I never accept tips from freinds or guilides. If I am in a city checking my mail and random guy number one asks me to open one, I oblige. I tend not to respond to trade spam unless I am just completely bored/feeling nice.
If a person just opens trade and pops one in the will not trade box, I promptly close the trade window and put them on ignore. I find it incredibly rude to just expect a person to do something for you because they can.
The way I see it, I leveled a skill for use myself. I can get into Kara without a key, I can unlock the door in shattered halls, I can open my junkboxes and get mats, gems and pots, and I can open my own random drop lockboxes. Those things were reason enough for me to level my LP, tips on the side are just a perk.
If a person just opens trade and pops one in the will not trade box, I promptly close the trade window and put them on ignore. I find it incredibly rude to just expect a person to do something for you because they can.
The way I see it, I leveled a skill for use myself. I can get into Kara without a key, I can unlock the door in shattered halls, I can open my junkboxes and get mats, gems and pots, and I can open my own random drop lockboxes. Those things were reason enough for me to level my LP, tips on the side are just a perk.
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I'm sorry, but you ask them for gold AFTER they find out what the contents are?
No no no, this is coming from the guy *getting* the lock picked, not the rogue doing it.
I pay extra if it's a rare BoE. My rogue doesn't even mention tips.
I really should have made that more clear. I'm too good at making my posts hard to understand.
Edited, Sep 9th 2008 11:39am by Ehcks
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