56 rogue now, few questions. I have looked in 3 different locations and haven't been able to find the answer to these questions. I've actually even asked a few 70 rogues and they said "I don't know." :|
Does Shadowstep make you drop the flag in WSG?
In the Ruthlessness talent, does "Melee finishing moves" apply to Kidney Shot?
Thank you
Edited, Sep 6th 2008 4:03pm by Zafire
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Does Shadowstep make you drop the flag in WSG?
Nope, it doesn't. Not last time I checked anyway.
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In the Ruthlessness talent, does "Melee finishing moves" apply to Cheap Shot?
No. Cheap Shot isn't a finishing move... Finishing moves are abilities which use up combo points. Which are Envenom, Eviscerate, Rupture, Expose Armor, Slice & Dice and Kidney Shot.
My bad, I meant kidney shot. Going to edit
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Yes in that case, it applies to kidney shot as far as I know.
As far as I know, right-clicking the buff, getting on a mount, going stealth or invisible, becoming immune to physical attacks, or dying are the only ways to drop a flag.
And the only finishing move Ruthlessness doesn't work with is Deadly Throw.
And the only finishing move Ruthlessness doesn't work with is Deadly Throw.
For the record, activating Rocket Boots also drops the flag.
Man I was pissed when they did that :<
Man I was pissed when they did that :<
Bubbling, Feign Death, and BoP all also remove the flag.
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And the only finishing move Ruthlessness doesn't work with is Deadly Throw.
S&D work with it?
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Zafire the Tulip wrote:
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And the only finishing move Ruthlessness doesn't work with is Deadly Throw.
S&D work with it?
What did he say?
"the only finishing move Ruthlessness doesn't work with is Deadly Throw"
Are you ******* retarded?
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What did he say?
"the only finishing move Ruthlessness doesn't work with is Deadly Throw"
Are you @#%^ing retarded?
"the only finishing move Ruthlessness doesn't work with is Deadly Throw"
Are you @#%^ing retarded?
Wasn't aware S&D was a "melee" finishing move. You can be completely disarmed with no melee weapon and still use S&D
Plus S&D doesn't melee, it buffs you. I'd hardly call it a "melee" finishing move.
But if Blizzard says so, then it is so!
Edited, Sep 7th 2008 4:50am by Zafire
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it uses combo points, so is a finishing move.
Hey, wait. It increases the speed that I swing my melee weapons, ergo it couldn't be considered a melee finisher!
c wut i did ther?
c wut i did ther?
Meh well yes it's a bit confusing, seeing as you can use all 'melee finishing moves' while in 'melee range' except S&D. But either way, yes, it works with S&D.
Since all other finishing moves effect the enemy, and SnD is a self-buff I can see the confusion. The answer in this thread earlier was still rather blatant though.
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Hey, wait. It increases the speed that I swing my melee weapons, ergo it couldn't be considered a melee finisher!
It can increase the speed you swing your unarmed fists too.
No need to be an *** :\
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Zafire the Tulip wrote:
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Hey, wait. It increases the speed that I swing my melee weapons, ergo it couldn't be considered a melee finisher!
It can increase the speed you swing your unarmed fists too.
No need to be an *** :\
Fists are melee combat.
I feel like I'm talking to a three year-old.
Zafire the Tulip wrote:
No need to be an *** :\
Hey, the man has a quota.
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Does Shadowstep make you drop the flag in WSG?
Far from it. It's actually a good trick to do it to enemy players in your way because it moves you 20-25yards forward and gives you Sprint for three seconds, which doesn't suck.
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In the Ruthlessness talent, does "Melee finishing moves" apply to Kidney Shot?
It's a finishing move, you use it in melee...
You have to admit, it does sound like a silly question. Buuuut I guess the title prepares us for that. :/
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Fists are melee combat.
Go get unarmed by someone. You wont be able to use anything but S&D
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Zafire the Tulip wrote:
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Fists are melee combat.
Go get unarmed by someone. You wont be able to use anything but S&D
Are you still hitting them in melee combat?
Yes?
Oh, good. I'm glad you completely fail at using your brain.
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Are you still hitting them in melee combat?
Yes?
Oh, good. I'm glad you completely fail at using your brain.
Yes?
Oh, good. I'm glad you completely fail at using your brain.
Harassing the ignorant always made your ego bigger? lol.
For real, though. Nearly everyone else could understand my misconception.
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Sorry, I forgot. You said:
"S&D work with it?"
after someone posted this:
"And the only finishing move Ruthlessness doesn't work with is Deadly Throw."
DUUUUUURRR
Edit: it's alright to be an idiot, and you do a decent job of hiding it, but nearly everything in this game is straight-forward. It's not like FFXI where nothing is explained unless you read forums, etc.
Edited, Sep 7th 2008 11:42pm by Theophany
"S&D work with it?"
after someone posted this:
"And the only finishing move Ruthlessness doesn't work with is Deadly Throw."
DUUUUUURRR
Edit: it's alright to be an idiot, and you do a decent job of hiding it, but nearly everything in this game is straight-forward. It's not like FFXI where nothing is explained unless you read forums, etc.
Edited, Sep 7th 2008 11:42pm by Theophany
1. SnD doesn't increase your ranged weapons, ergo it's melee combat.
2.
Umm, do you actually read this forum?
2.
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No need to be an *** :\
Umm, do you actually read this forum?
DUDE, you DID, after all, proclaim your questions to be stupid questions ... that sorta gives everyone license to treat you like you're ... well ... stupid.
Edited, Sep 8th 2008 4:38pm by robertlofthouse
Edited, Sep 8th 2008 4:38pm by robertlofthouse
Zafire the Tulip wrote:
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Are you still hitting them in melee combat?
Yes?
Oh, good. I'm glad you completely fail at using your brain.
Yes?
Oh, good. I'm glad you completely fail at using your brain.
Harassing the ignorant always made your ego bigger? lol.
For real, though. Nearly everyone else could understand my misconception.
Look, Theo does this every couple of days. It's how he gets his kicks. If you want to avoid it, don't try to argue with him, especially when you're clearly wrong. Take the hit on the chest and let him get the +1 he wants. You drag it out like this and you just look stupider, because Theo flamebaits for ***** and giggles, and we tolerate it cos he's usually right and it's fun to read.
If he goes "you're stupid" and you say "no I'm not", the conversation is never going to progress beyond "you're stupid" and "no I'm not". Kill it in its tracks by saying "yeah, I guess that was stupid" and then doing a funny emote.
zepoodle wrote:
If he goes "you're stupid" and you say "no I'm not", the conversation is never going to progress beyond "you're stupid" and "no I'm not". Kill it in its tracks by saying "yeah, I guess that was stupid" and then doing a funny emote.
THIS.
Zepoodle wrote:
Look, Theo does this every couple of days. It's how he gets his kicks. If you want to avoid it, don't try to argue with him, especially when you're clearly wrong. Take the hit on the chest and let him get the +1 he wants. You drag it out like this and you just look stupider, because Theo flamebaits for ***** and giggles, and we tolerate it cos he's usually right and it's fun to read.
If he goes "you're stupid" and you say "no I'm not", the conversation is never going to progress beyond "you're stupid" and "no I'm not". Kill it in its tracks by saying "yeah, I guess that was stupid" and then doing a funny emote.
If he goes "you're stupid" and you say "no I'm not", the conversation is never going to progress beyond "you're stupid" and "no I'm not". Kill it in its tracks by saying "yeah, I guess that was stupid" and then doing a funny emote.
This is the only reason to read the WoW forums. Theo is absolutely right, there is nothing about WoW that is not so straight-forward you actually need to read up and learn about it in detail. This whole place is an opinion warehouse with everything at bargain prices. Everytime someone flames me I just start laughing. My girlfriend thinks I am nuts for reading these threads, but for me it is pure comedy. In short I can't take anything Theo says seriously, he just makes me smile.
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