Okay here is my problem. I cannot get over 1000 DPS in raids. Like i have done so much research on the perfect raid rotation the perfect spec. But i cannot seem to break it. I want some advice on what i am doing wrong. So if i could get some help that would be awesome. If you have time please give me a detailed report on what i should be using for poisons what attack rotation and why and what i should do with me gear spec and anything else. i want to be the best DPS i can be. PLEASE PLEASE!!! Hit me with it. I dont care if you insult my gear. I just want to be the best rogue i can be. I will list below my armory link my talent tree link and list my attack rotation. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!! PLEASE let me know what i can do to improve i am tired of suckin on the DPS list. =)
Armory Link: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostmane&n=Hammy
Talent Tree: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogue/talents.html?tal=0053201050000000000003203050020050155023210510000000000000000000000
Attack Rotation: 2 Sin Strike, SnD, 5 Sin Strike, Rupture. Rinse and repeat.
Please people i need all the advice and info to improve myself. So lay it on me. Thanks alot.
Sincerely,
Hammy
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When I was fist/sword I went with 3/5 for each weapon skill. You can't miss out on Vile Poisons in a raid environment. Effectively keeping Deadly up at all times is a serious boost to DPS.
Are you keeping on-target? Many rogues waste too much time moving around and not hitting the target or otherwise wasting DPS uptime. Stay on target. Rogue DPS is in large part all about efficient use of time, both generally and in the details.
Are you counting your DPS over an entire raid or just on boss fights? When people talk about their OMFGPWNT DPS, they're usually talking about the numbers they hit on advantageous boss fights, not entire runs. For rogues these are usually Attumen, Tidewalker or Void Reaver depending.
I hope you're opening with garrote on bosses. Not much, but every little bit...
Are you bringing consumables? Eat some Hot Talbuk Steak, down a Relentless flask, be sure to have your weapons poisoned at all times (also bring sharpening stones for your sword on poison-immune mobs).
Did I mention DPS uptime?
Other than that, be sure to ask to be placed in the correct group. Try to get in the same group as an enhance shammy or ret pally. Ask for buffs if you're not getting them (MoW is great, Salv let's you keep up the pain, etc).
Also, ask your raid groups (or guilds) class leader for suggestions.
And finally: Topping the meters isn't really the goal. If your DPS is matching nicely to the tanks' threat gen, THAT's what's vital. Pushing an arbitrary number will do you no good if you're pulling aggro, just the same as it doesn't matter how good the tanks TPS is if the healers can't keep up. Raids are in some ways like a dance: Coordinated balancing acts. Our role is to live long enough to keep up the DPS rotations and occasionally kick sh*t (oh, Caribdis, I love you).
Hope some of that helps. Good luck!
Are you keeping on-target? Many rogues waste too much time moving around and not hitting the target or otherwise wasting DPS uptime. Stay on target. Rogue DPS is in large part all about efficient use of time, both generally and in the details.
Are you counting your DPS over an entire raid or just on boss fights? When people talk about their OMFGPWNT DPS, they're usually talking about the numbers they hit on advantageous boss fights, not entire runs. For rogues these are usually Attumen, Tidewalker or Void Reaver depending.
I hope you're opening with garrote on bosses. Not much, but every little bit...
Are you bringing consumables? Eat some Hot Talbuk Steak, down a Relentless flask, be sure to have your weapons poisoned at all times (also bring sharpening stones for your sword on poison-immune mobs).
Did I mention DPS uptime?
Other than that, be sure to ask to be placed in the correct group. Try to get in the same group as an enhance shammy or ret pally. Ask for buffs if you're not getting them (MoW is great, Salv let's you keep up the pain, etc).
Also, ask your raid groups (or guilds) class leader for suggestions.
And finally: Topping the meters isn't really the goal. If your DPS is matching nicely to the tanks' threat gen, THAT's what's vital. Pushing an arbitrary number will do you no good if you're pulling aggro, just the same as it doesn't matter how good the tanks TPS is if the healers can't keep up. Raids are in some ways like a dance: Coordinated balancing acts. Our role is to live long enough to keep up the DPS rotations and occasionally kick sh*t (oh, Caribdis, I love you).
Hope some of that helps. Good luck!
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Thank you so much for the information i will use all this on my next raid tomarrow. I will let you know how it all turns out =)
Your armor looks good so far.
Try to get the shard of contempt from MGT as replacement for the hourglass.
Get exalted with Scryers asap for the better shoulder enchant.
Get Pendant of Might instead of the worgen neck. You might wanna think about keeping the neck for boss fights because of the hit. Check the spreadsheet to be sure.
Get weapons that are the same type. You're loosing 5 talentpoints because now you need 2 specializations. Get the badge fist to replace the sword. It has more DPS and i seem to remember the fist being better dps overal (when adding sword spec crits to the "normal DPS" of the sword). Check the spreadsheet to be sure.
When you're waiting for BG's or dungeon groups or whatever, fly just outside of shattrath and farm the warpchasers for the warp burgers (you need cooking). It's the fastest way to farm decent raid food i know of.
Also, kill the caps and begging in posts :P
Try to get the shard of contempt from MGT as replacement for the hourglass.
Get exalted with Scryers asap for the better shoulder enchant.
Get Pendant of Might instead of the worgen neck. You might wanna think about keeping the neck for boss fights because of the hit. Check the spreadsheet to be sure.
Get weapons that are the same type. You're loosing 5 talentpoints because now you need 2 specializations. Get the badge fist to replace the sword. It has more DPS and i seem to remember the fist being better dps overal (when adding sword spec crits to the "normal DPS" of the sword). Check the spreadsheet to be sure.
When you're waiting for BG's or dungeon groups or whatever, fly just outside of shattrath and farm the warpchasers for the warp burgers (you need cooking). It's the fastest way to farm decent raid food i know of.
Also, kill the caps and begging in posts :P
Get SSO necklace and get exalted with Scryers. SSO necklace is better than Worgen one.
Listen to Therion and samperor, they are right. :)
BTW: maybe I'm blind or something, but I see you have only 1 blue gem, so your meta gem is not active. You should change that as soon as possible.
Listen to Therion and samperor, they are right. :)
BTW: maybe I'm blind or something, but I see you have only 1 blue gem, so your meta gem is not active. You should change that as soon as possible.
this made me lol...sorry
I would say the point that jumps out at me would be your rotation. No rotation is ever going to be set in stone, with the exception of t6 geared rogues w/ AToL. The spreadsheet can give you a guideline, but you may have to adapt it once you get into an encounter, and notice your SnD dropping.
The key to finding your best rotation is to ensure SnD NEVER drops, and you optimize rupture uptime. Any fool can do 2s/5r...but if you're down on SnD 15% of the time, well then that's probably your answer.
The key to finding your best rotation is to ensure SnD NEVER drops, and you optimize rupture uptime. Any fool can do 2s/5r...but if you're down on SnD 15% of the time, well then that's probably your answer.
To break 1000dps you need to be well buffed. You need to have a shaman dropping WF totem in your group (and your main hand clean of poisons), warrior with shout, hunter and druid also help. Get paladin buffs too. Time your cooldowns with heroism.
Unbuffed T5 rogue does something like 700-800dps.
Get all 5 points in your weapon specs.
Don't bother changing the necklace - Scryers SSO necklace is not as good as the Aldor one.
Unbuffed T5 rogue does something like 700-800dps.
Get all 5 points in your weapon specs.
Don't bother changing the necklace - Scryers SSO necklace is not as good as the Aldor one.
Wytryszek wrote:
Don't bother changing the necklace - Scryers SSO necklace is not as good as the Aldor one.
Stop ******* posting here you moron.
There's a 9 MAEP difference between the necklaces even for Scryers.
Anyone that doesn't use the SSO neck and doesn't have Choker of Endless Nightmares or better is a ******* moron.
Like you.
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Stop @#%^ing posting here you moron.
There's a 9 MAEP difference between the necklaces even for Scryers.
Anyone that doesn't use the SSO neck and doesn't have Choker of Endless Nightmares or better is a @#%^ing moron.
Like you.
There's a 9 MAEP difference between the necklaces even for Scryers.
Anyone that doesn't use the SSO neck and doesn't have Choker of Endless Nightmares or better is a @#%^ing moron.
Like you.
i hare no spreed sheex. whare ar MAEP?
I think he's referring to Maximum Agility Equivalency Points which is a way of comparing gear. Check Elitist Jerks for more on that.
wow, therion got baited there. I think that's a first :) I witnessed it !!!
I see you got both the molten claws now but still have the sword spec in there. Change it :P
Edited, Sep 9th 2008 9:36am by samperor
I see you got both the molten claws now but still have the sword spec in there. Change it :P
Edited, Sep 9th 2008 9:36am by samperor
Damn! I are dumb.
/shame
/shame
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Wytryszek wrote:
Don't bother changing the necklace - Scryers SSO necklace is not as good as the Aldor one.
Stop @#%^ing posting here you moron.
There's a 9 MAEP difference between the necklaces even for Scryers.
Anyone that doesn't use the SSO neck and doesn't have Choker of Endless Nightmares or better is a @#%^ing moron.
Like you.
Right, so the guy wants to improve his DPS probably by something like 200, and you tell him to get a 2dps piece upgrade, that will not even work for him because he is not exalted yet.
Pure genius.
Try to think, even if it hurts.
Wytryszek wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Wytryszek wrote:
Don't bother changing the necklace - Scryers SSO necklace is not as good as the Aldor one.
Stop @#%^ing posting here you moron.
There's a 9 MAEP difference between the necklaces even for Scryers.
Anyone that doesn't use the SSO neck and doesn't have Choker of Endless Nightmares or better is a @#%^ing moron.
Like you.
Right, so the guy wants to improve his DPS probably by something like 200, and you tell him to get a 2dps piece upgrade, that will not even work for him because he is not exalted yet.
Pure genius.
Try to think, even if it hurts.
Theo suggested he get an item that actually puts him closer to that 200 DPS, whereas you are telling him to downgrade. How does that help the OP?
Also, its not like its hard to get exalted with aldor or scryer, especially scryer if you half *** do dailies. The stuff is dirt cheap on the AH now too.
Wytryszek wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Wytryszek wrote:
Don't bother changing the necklace - Scryers SSO necklace is not as good as the Aldor one.
Stop @#%^ing posting here you moron.
There's a 9 MAEP difference between the necklaces even for Scryers.
Anyone that doesn't use the SSO neck and doesn't have Choker of Endless Nightmares or better is a @#%^ing moron.
Like you.
Right, so the guy wants to improve his DPS probably by something like 200, and you tell him to get a 2dps piece upgrade, that will not even work for him because he is not exalted yet.
Pure genius.
Try to think, even if it hurts.
YEA BRO WHO WANTS MORE DPS
I LIKE TAKING GEAR THAT GIVES ME LESS DPS
Are you seriously that stupid?
#17REDACTED,
Posted: Sep 12 2008 at 2:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Perhaps you should worry less about hit rating and raise your Crit%? I believe a little more balanced would work better than throwing everything at hit rating.
Hit rating is the single best DPS stat we have until it's damn near cap.
Period.
Period.
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Perhaps you should worry less about hit rating and raise your Crit%? I believe a little more balanced would work better than throwing everything at hit rating.
Stop.
Go read the stickies.
Go read Elitist Jerks.
Be enlightened.
#20REDACTED,
Posted: Sep 12 2008 at 9:49 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OK. When I was heavily into raiding, I was pure
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OK. When I was heavily into raiding, I was pure combat daggers... I dare you out dps me, even in sh*tty kara epics.
That's like kicking a baby.... that's blind.
Any idiot can claim to pwn this and rule that. WWS or it didn't happen, jackhole.
I could out DPS a combat daggers rogue as ShS.
Because a combat daggers rogue wouldn't know what the **** he's doing.
Because a combat daggers rogue wouldn't know what the **** he's doing.
#23REDACTED,
Posted: Sep 13 2008 at 1:50 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Look at his hit rating. If that isn't above cap I don't know what is. There is nothing wrong with trading some HR to boost his crit% over 30%
gankingisfun wrote:
Look at his hit rating. If that isn't above cap I don't know what is. There is nothing wrong with trading some HR to boost his crit% over 30%
You're a moron.
gankingisfun wrote:
Look at his hit rating. If that isn't above cap I don't know what is.
Is there a rating lower than Sub-Default? The OP's hit rating is 328. HR cap is 363 for raid bosses. Learn to research before posting (EJ Roguecraft 101).
Edited, Sep 13th 2008 5:05am by TherionSaysWhat
did this douchebag get all his posts erased? i hope?
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