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5 points at spirit tap and 5 at wand specialization, work your way thru the shadow tree and you will have no problem leveling. There is also a smiter build for leveling but shadow build is better. Once you hit 68 or 70, its up to you whether you want to be healer or a dpser. Shadow priest are soo wanted by guilds that there too many in my server. Read the topics here in this forum You can find most of what you are looking for.

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Well in my server I can see 10-15 request for disc priest to join someone's 2 vs 2 arena team. Disc priest is wanted and liked, mass dispel anyone? My first toon to hit 70 was a mage and I can say that there and advantages of leveling first a clothie. That way you maybe learn to control incoming dmg and learn to avoid bad pulls.

I can imagine someone first playing prot pally to 70 and then trying firemage and getting killed every pull. Propably going mageforums to tell that class is broken.

But one advice on leveling, keep some +heal gear in bank when u get higher and learn a little bit of healing. Of course this is not necessity but many will invite you more likely to group in instance if you heal. No worries about shadow specc, you can easily heal as long as you have enough intellect in gear.

Welcome to the game and consider your self as lucky that you want to maybe learn your class also and not just lvl it =)

Damage as a Disc? I don't know. Damage as a Shadow is just sick, and the utility spells are a nice mix. Holy, well the damage is avg, and the utility end is limited, but the heals are great.

It really is about using your skills to the best. Shadow you really can rip out the damage, but a DPS class (playing PvE) is a dime a dozen. Disc is there more for PvP. Holy, well everyone wants a healer in their group as they go into an instance, and you can heal through a lot of situations going PvE (along with your other utility spells that you get no matter what spec you go).

But till you get to 60, I'd go with Ihawks suggestion.

You're doing it wrong.



I've actually decided levelling my 21 priest to 70 rather than my 39 paladin, due to the simple fact that priest healing is a lot more enjoyable. Paladins usually use just one spell, that's it. Priests have tons of spells usable in all specific situations.



Last time I checked Flash of Light was 1,5 sec cast. Last time I checked Flash Heal was 1,5 sec cast as well. Please enlighten me as to how you get 3 heals of in the time a priest does 1? Unless you're comparing Flash of Light to Greater heal, which is useless seeing as Greater Heal heals for 4/5/6 times the amount of a flash of light; it's the difference between a small fast heal and a big slow heal.



That much is true. On the other side, Holy Paladins are more prone to interruption, lack a DOT, lack a PvP shield, lack viable CC and lack mana burn. PvP-wise that's a big miss. Not saying they're not viable, just pointing out they're not per definition better for PvP than priests, rather the opposite.



Each his own isn't it?



With a health buff, armor buff, instant shield, instant HOT, instant DOT, instant fear and instant DPS lash (that can even be used to break polymorph on yourself) you aren't going to die anytime soon. In fact, I kill Holy Paladins faster than Priests on my Rogue. Yes, if you're playing PvP as full holy, it might be horrendous. But in that case I'll point you back to the first first sentence I typed in this post.

I've played Paladin and Priest in PvP/PvE situations. I soooo prefer Priest for both healing and PvP. The only really fun thing I can do as Paladin is specc Prot and go AoE grinding or Tanking. As a Priest? Facemelting fun and just insane healing/support options.

Healing Paladin: Spam FoL. Might toss a bigger one out there once in a while. Spam decursive on a few encounters.
Retardin: Pray long and hard for that Casino procc. Run out of mana long before anything conclusive has happened.
Protadin: Nigh Unkillable in PvP/PvE. No damage in PvP, dead if dealing with multiple ranged/casters in PvE. Unequalled tank though.

Holy Priest: Enormously varied in how you can solve sticky situations in a group. Bubbles, HoT, Fear (if applicable to encounter), a Plethora of healing spells, "AoE" healing and so on. Quite simply the best healer in a raid. Only Shamans can compare, and just barely.
Disc Priest: Unkillable, good (but not the best) healing, a little bit of damage and the best group support out there.
Shadow Priest: Can you say "Oh dear jesus whyyyyyyy? Whyyyyy is my face gone? My eyeballs are boiling in their sockets!"? Very powerful DoT, powerful DPS, Fear, Silence, 10% stun on pretty much all worthwhile damage spells, healing while dpsing, manabattery, looks awesome.

Priest is a class with such diversity that I'm awed. I'm quite simply saddened that I didn't start playing a Priest earlier than I did. I will be spending so much money respeccing between Shadow and Holy (because both trees are just so freaking insane in both PvP and PvE) while laughing at my Paladin who's stuck in Prot. Why? Because my Priest can both DPS and Heal better than he ever could. The only thing my Priest can't do as well as my Paladin is tank, but that's what Plate is for.

You can check out my healer,name is Raae on Exodar....

As I suspected. You're not talking about endgame PVP, where Discipline Priests are among the most powerful creatures on the field. You're probably not talking about the 49-60 brackets, where Shadowpriest twinks are among the deadliest opponents seen. Once you experience more of the game's PVP, your perspective will change. In the meantime, you probably shouldn't tell new players that Priests suck for all PVP, because that's just not so, and when they get to level 70 they'll look at their pitiful Arena rankings and blame you for telling them to roll a paladin.



A paladin with a flag who bubbles drops the flag and can't pick it up again for a few seconds. You must be misunderstanding what is going on in those fights.



What's your Priest's resilience? Or is he still in the twink brackets too? You don't use Mana Burn, and you don't mention Prayer of Mending, Focused Will, Pain Suppression, or Binding Heal, so I'm guessing you're not at 70. Trust me, it's a completely different ball game. Your best bet for PVP as a Priest from 40 all the way to 60 is a Shadowpriest with stacked stamina and shadow damage. After that, Discipline/Holy healing and utility reign supreme.


Edited, Sep 4th 2008 12:24pm by emmitsvenson

You're an idiot and shouldn't be playing, let alone giving crappy advice.

You may want to go ahead and level up to 69, then camp that bracket a while, playing WSG, AB and EotS exclusively. That will let you accumulate honor and marks to buy plenty of Merciless and Guardian/Vindicator's gear when you hit 70, and more importantly, it will let you enjoy yourself while you do it--you'll be competitive in those battlegrounds at that level even without a ton of Resilience, not the ***** of every 70 who's slopped their way to Vengeful gear over months of Arena. Stack plenty of stamina and +healing and you'll be fine.

In addition, or instead, you could grind your reputation up and get the blue battlegear set from the rep vendors. That's a long road, but you'll be running instances instead of battlegrounds. Underbog is a particularly good instance to run, since you'll get your Cenarion Expedition rep up and also potentially get the Alembic of Infernal Power, and extremely useful trinket for PVP priests.

On the other hand, if you don't mind being the underdog, you can level straight to 70 and jump straight into the arena. For 50g you can buy a new arena team every week and get a modest amount of arena points towards your Brutal gloves, wand and offhand while you're grinding out honor in the 70's BGs. Just be aware that you will get put in the dirt pretty fast until you get your resilience up.



My hunter twink is Sharku, 49 hunter on Garithos.

Yes, I know healing priests are vulnerable to hunters early on; without effective damage reduction and without an answer to viper sting (except for dwarves), they're much squishier than paladins, who have plate and cleanse. I also know that shadowpriests melt faces from the 49 bracket almost to endgame, as you will discover if you ever move your hunter up a bracket or two.

The best twinks know their brackets well enough to realize what is true in there is not true everywhere. Rogues don't dominate at 49 the way they do at 19. At 59 shamans are not as good at carrying a flag as they are at 29. A 70 warlock will not overshadow the field the way it did at 59, and so on.

I'm not talking down your accomplishments. What I'm trying to point out is that your experience is very limited. Priests can and do excel at PVP; it's a mistake to tell new players that they can't.

Oh, I'm no saint. But people here have always been very friendly to me when they correct my mistakes; it's one of the things that makes Allakhazam so much better than the O-boards. I figure if other people can put up with me, I can put up with other people.