Akrios New Short 2v2 VideoFollow

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I highly recommend downloading it because its much better quality

I feel there is some good play by both him and Nition

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Umm, if I'm not mistaken, those are some of the better rogues....in the entire game. Are you seriously comparing yourself to them? Akrios has both S4 swords, and Nition has (in the armory at least) S4/Warglaive. I'm 99% sure that you aren't on the same 'skill level' as they are.

whatever. I don't have the energy to reply to this.

That's dead on but the main point of Rogue/Rogue 2v2 is severe coordination and execution of CC correctly...



Sure you are... Akrios is considered one of the BEST rogues in world, in order to get a rogue/rogue team to the 2000 is amazing, it is definitely not the best comp or the most viable but mind you it is a doable comp, but if you insist that you are that show me that you can even get to 2000 rating let alone with a rogue partner

And as to the



If he was on Akrios and not Nition then Nition would have been pounding away on his resto druid pall, there are two rogues there Mozared...and in reference to the rogue shsing back to akrios it is for another sap to keep him locked out of the battle for as long as possible.

Guys, are you seriously saying that rogue/rogue is hard after 1900?

It's not. You find the druid, faceroll him into the dirt with a few well-timed KSes, and you collect points.

The only hard part about rogue/rogue is getting past the inevitable pally teams in the 1800-1900 area. Pretty much every team after that is cake.

(Though shaman/warrior can be pretty rough with the ******** of RNG they can throw at you.)

Akrios is a good rogue, but both he and his partner are using 4pc T6. It's hardly amazing that they can drop druids or mirrors where both other rogues are using just S3/S4.

He doesn't show extreme skill, he doesn't show extreme coordination. Watch Tosan's Renataki Twins if you want to see coordination. Calling for a sap on your own blind from your partner is coordination; every rogue above 1600 should be able to blind/sap. It's incredibly easy and doesn't show much coordination at all.

Um, so you are saying you're in the same 'skill level' as these two, which is 'above average' to 'pretty sweet'. Thus these two rogues, with eons better gear than you have, are just above average? Please take a vid of your next arena, and let us see your comparable skill set.

NOTE: If I posted a vid of myself, everyone would be laughing.

Long version:
Let me point out something;
I've been lately leveling both a priest and a mage (and then I'm not mentioning a bunch of other alts). I managed to retrieve S1 on my rogue as S2 came out for honor. That got me kind of annoyed, and with a load of alts (mainly the priest) to level and gear up, I decided to stick PvE with my priest, and save my rogue for PvP. I had the hope honor and arena points would not be wiped, so whenever I felt like it I'd just do some arena/BG with the rogue.

Then I started looking at specs more intensely and figured I was screwed; I want to play dagger and mutilate isn't my thing. While min/maxing isn't mandate for the level of PvP I currently do, shs-daggers is simply too bad a spec to do well with. Sure, I'd have my occassional moment of glory, but nothing more than that. And that's aside from the fact that I'm still in S1 with a couple of blues, which makes live even harder for me.

But I'm not complaining; I've just somewhat dropped PvP until WOTLK comes out, when I intend to get into serious arena play as a dagger rogue. I might not make the 2000 brackets, but I'm aiming for ~1800. Since I got the confirmation today that my arena points will indeed be wiped, I've spend my 2700 points on some S3 stuff, and am currently farming some EOTS marks to use up the 17K I had saved up.

Short version; I won't be able to give you a PvP video or anything like it, due to the simple fact that I don't seriously PvP at the moment. Aside from the fact that I'd have to respec, I'd need to find a serious partner and upgrade loads of gear, which seems useless to me with WOTLK coming out. If everything works out though, you might see one or two movies from me in WOTLK arena.

Aside from that; what is it with your obsession with gear? Let me repeat it again. Just because all the people in high end gear are skilled it doesn't mean all people in bad gear are unskilled. You don't nééd gear to be skilled. Remember Rip's video's from pre-tbc? He kicked some *** while being naked and using a worn dagger. Now you can argue rogues were simply overpowered, but even at that time you can't say every naked rogue kicked butt. Rip had skills. I'm just trying to say that "Those two rogues have better gear than you" isn't really an argument for them being more skilled than me.

Also, since a lot of you seem to be following Theo's standard; while he's a fine bloke, keep in mind his standards are high. What I consider an 'avarage' player Theo probably considers a total ******. It's pretty much what Therion pointed out in the '70's spec topic'. While that's all fine, keep it in mind. I haven't seen any of you play, but I doubt anybody here really sucks.




Hmm, what are you referring to? The only 'mistake' I referred to was the odd behaviour of some of their enemies, but that doesn't seem to fit in with your post.

Yes, I could carry an avarage player up to a certain level, but I'd need to respec and gear up. Which I won't, since I hate non-dagger specs and WOTLK is coming up. I heavily disagree with your last sentence though. I could name you tons of reasons for being good in silly gear; mine are real-life, 2 pretty intensive alts and RP.



And that's exactly what I'm trying to point out. If I were to correct that sentence it'd say "But if you truly had the skill, willpower, time and interest that these guys have, you'd be......."

As for you sucking... Me saying I knew you better than yourself would be an undefendable point. I just mean that pretty much all people I've seen on these boards have quite 'avarage' knowledge about the rogue class... They know some tricks, know what to use in which situation and understand the theorycrafting. That, in my opinion, already makes you avarage; the people whom I think honestly suck are the 8 idiots who zerg the stables and STILL manage to lose it.

Edit: Clarified some stuff, getting late here ;)

Edited, Aug 29th 2008 12:16am by Mozared

Aye, I somewhat agree.



That's what you said earlier. While the connection with my (previous) partner was alright, I think this may eventually the point where I (or rather 'we') lack... I haven't had much chance to practice in working out the perfect synergy with my partner yet, and while I'm positive I can do it, it's a thing that might sting me in WOTLK.

Consistency of good play as well, I tend to have bad or good nights. This evening I had a pretty good night (though obtaining S3 chest and gloves helped a bit) and kicked plenty of *** in the BG. But this afternoon I lost all duals against my shockadin pall of who I'm sure I can beat him. Granted, he's in full S2 + all pvp honor epix you can get, and I've just respecced to give 30/0/31 a try, but still.