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Hello all. I am currently leveling a ret paly. I was leveling it with my wife, but she is taking some time off as her guildies called her back to Lineage 2 for a month or so. Anyways, I like my pally and want to keep leveling him. I am thinking of changing to prot and doing some AoE around 35 or so. The question I have is, how are prot pally's for questing and at 70, for doing dailies? Does it take forever or does the AoE abilities help to speed things up. I am probably going about 90% solo on this character due to work schedules(which means using quest gear or AH gear mainly), but the AoE playing appeals to my inner saddist. Is it doable/enjoyable, or will I pull my hair out at the slowness and difficulty of dailies at 70?
Hello mate,
I'd say get to 70 before worrying about dailies and so on.
You can AOE grind from 35(i think) onwards, taking 3-4 mobs on at a time. However casters can cause problems as can single slow hitters. There are a few places where you can sucessfully grind mobs.
I leveled as ret as although you can only take on a max of 2-3 mobs (at later levels) you can burn them down quickly and casters are less of a problem.
Just my 2c
I'd say get to 70 before worrying about dailies and so on.
You can AOE grind from 35(i think) onwards, taking 3-4 mobs on at a time. However casters can cause problems as can single slow hitters. There are a few places where you can sucessfully grind mobs.
I leveled as ret as although you can only take on a max of 2-3 mobs (at later levels) you can burn them down quickly and casters are less of a problem.
Just my 2c
I agree, hit 70 before you worry about dailies. That said, here is my experience with the dailies on the Isle of Quel'Danas, the Shattered Sun Offensive quests:
- my Enhancement Shaman, BM Hunter, and Demo Lock all can do those quests on the island in about 45 mins to an hour.
- my Prot Paladin, who has a higher grade of gear then any of my DPSers takes about 2 to 2 and a half hours ...
Yea she can AOE things, but there are less then ideal conditions there. 1) caster mobs 2) ranged mobs 3)neutral mobs that you need to save for a quest (not Consecrate to death :P) 4) mobs that drain your mana in large chunks. Am I forgetting anything? lol
After my Paladin got exalted with the Shattered Sun Offensive I never went back to do dailies with her: not a single one :P
- my Enhancement Shaman, BM Hunter, and Demo Lock all can do those quests on the island in about 45 mins to an hour.
- my Prot Paladin, who has a higher grade of gear then any of my DPSers takes about 2 to 2 and a half hours ...
Yea she can AOE things, but there are less then ideal conditions there. 1) caster mobs 2) ranged mobs 3)neutral mobs that you need to save for a quest (not Consecrate to death :P) 4) mobs that drain your mana in large chunks. Am I forgetting anything? lol
After my Paladin got exalted with the Shattered Sun Offensive I never went back to do dailies with her: not a single one :P
Thanks for the replies. It is not so much that I am worrying about dailies. What I was asking about is the killing speed and actually getting the quests done in a timely manner while leveling up as well as the dailies. I really like the pally class, but just don't have the time anymore to spend if dailies are going to take forever to do as, sadly, they are a main source of most peoples income in this game. I have a lock and hunter already who are both closing in on 70 quickly(mid 60's), but for some reason they just don't do it for me fun wise. Also, I tend to get sucked into helping my wife and her friends level up and do low-mid level instances and I thought a prot pally would be great for that as well.
I'd say use one of your other high level characters to help your wife + friends at the moment. I woudl still recommend levelling as ret as it will be quicker overall I believe and casters etc will not cause as much of a problem as if you were prot. At 70 you can get some decent tanking gear and go prot.
Helping lowbies as prot can be awesome if you have reasonable gear. For instance I can 2 pull the whole of the stockades which is quick for helping lowbs.
Also I can pull and kill all of the belfs in the ruins of karabour which is helpful for friends doing the collect-the-glaives quest.
Helping lowbies as prot can be awesome if you have reasonable gear. For instance I can 2 pull the whole of the stockades which is quick for helping lowbs.
Also I can pull and kill all of the belfs in the ruins of karabour which is helpful for friends doing the collect-the-glaives quest.
I read "questing and at 70" as "questing at 70": sorry bout that :P
I will agree here that leveling Ret will be the better way to go. You can still AE to a certain degree if/when you need to, and as stated above me, the mobs that are in problem groups for Prot are much more easily handled by a Ret. AOE grinding/questing used to be much more effective, but since XP needed to level went down and XP gained from quests went up, questing (particularly instance quests) is a much faster way to go. Some quests I concede can be doen AOE style, but not all, or at least not as effectively as simple burning down 1 or 2 mobs at a time.
Once you hit Outland if you have some decent Prot gear though, you may find AOE grinding/questing to be a good way to go, but getting there, Ret would be better.
I will agree here that leveling Ret will be the better way to go. You can still AE to a certain degree if/when you need to, and as stated above me, the mobs that are in problem groups for Prot are much more easily handled by a Ret. AOE grinding/questing used to be much more effective, but since XP needed to level went down and XP gained from quests went up, questing (particularly instance quests) is a much faster way to go. Some quests I concede can be doen AOE style, but not all, or at least not as effectively as simple burning down 1 or 2 mobs at a time.
Once you hit Outland if you have some decent Prot gear though, you may find AOE grinding/questing to be a good way to go, but getting there, Ret would be better.
Well, once you do hit 70, if you tend to solo alot and not really group up and/or do instances, I don't recommend you go prot. Several reasons for this:
Soloing ANY quest (including dailies) takes longer as prot. You never die (from the PvE stuff), but it takes forever to kill things. You have very little strength and very little agility, and you have a craptastic 1-hander that does no damage. Doing quests solo as this spec = yuck. That being said, if you can find a good healer and a good ranged DPS that play about the same time as you and like to do dailies, you can 3-man the whole isle in about 30-40 minutes and go on the the outlands dailies, and probably get 20+ dailies done in 2 hours or less.
Gankage while doing dailies is annoying... if you are on a PvP or RPPvP server, this can be a real problem. Anyone who tells you "You are a 70, how can you get ganked?" is an idiot. Yesterday on the Isle, I was attempting to solo my dailies (painful enough), when a group of about 8 horde decided to band together and continually kill any easy targets they saw. Since the allies weren't smart enough to start banding together, I decided it was time to go elsewhere. 8 Horde (including a Hunter, a Frost Mage, a Fire Mage and 2 Rogues) against 1 prot pally isn't even a joke, it is just pallypancakes. At least if I was ret I could have MAYBE killed one of them on occasion.
Lastly, if you play alone, you MAY like to do BGs (not sure, you didn't really say). Being in BGs as a prot is fun if everyone KNOWS you are a Prot and supports you so that you can do the things you do best (like tank the opposing commander in AV). The main drawback is that if you are trying for Prot Gear, you just ain't gonna get it from PvP rewards.
My advice if you really ENJOY playing a Prot Paladin is to casually group up with people and try to get yourself into a fairly relaxed guild that won't mind you playing on your own schedule, and will understand that even though you are Prot, you may not always have time for dungeons or whatever, but would love to group up for questing/dailies with people and may occasionally do dungeons as time permits. If you find a fairly casual guild that has other players on when you are, you can stay prot and get a person or two to group up with you, and then you can all get the quests done super-efficiently. I have a friend who is a holy/disc priest, and my wife plays an MM Hunter, so when the three of us team up for dailies, they are a breeze.
If your wife and a friend of yours are lower level and you like to help them out, then by all means go prot and help them catch up to you, and then you have a built-in team for dailies once you all get there.
Edited, Sep 4th 2008 4:07pm by jeromesimina
Soloing ANY quest (including dailies) takes longer as prot. You never die (from the PvE stuff), but it takes forever to kill things. You have very little strength and very little agility, and you have a craptastic 1-hander that does no damage. Doing quests solo as this spec = yuck. That being said, if you can find a good healer and a good ranged DPS that play about the same time as you and like to do dailies, you can 3-man the whole isle in about 30-40 minutes and go on the the outlands dailies, and probably get 20+ dailies done in 2 hours or less.
Gankage while doing dailies is annoying... if you are on a PvP or RPPvP server, this can be a real problem. Anyone who tells you "You are a 70, how can you get ganked?" is an idiot. Yesterday on the Isle, I was attempting to solo my dailies (painful enough), when a group of about 8 horde decided to band together and continually kill any easy targets they saw. Since the allies weren't smart enough to start banding together, I decided it was time to go elsewhere. 8 Horde (including a Hunter, a Frost Mage, a Fire Mage and 2 Rogues) against 1 prot pally isn't even a joke, it is just pallypancakes. At least if I was ret I could have MAYBE killed one of them on occasion.
Lastly, if you play alone, you MAY like to do BGs (not sure, you didn't really say). Being in BGs as a prot is fun if everyone KNOWS you are a Prot and supports you so that you can do the things you do best (like tank the opposing commander in AV). The main drawback is that if you are trying for Prot Gear, you just ain't gonna get it from PvP rewards.
My advice if you really ENJOY playing a Prot Paladin is to casually group up with people and try to get yourself into a fairly relaxed guild that won't mind you playing on your own schedule, and will understand that even though you are Prot, you may not always have time for dungeons or whatever, but would love to group up for questing/dailies with people and may occasionally do dungeons as time permits. If you find a fairly casual guild that has other players on when you are, you can stay prot and get a person or two to group up with you, and then you can all get the quests done super-efficiently. I have a friend who is a holy/disc priest, and my wife plays an MM Hunter, so when the three of us team up for dailies, they are a breeze.
If your wife and a friend of yours are lower level and you like to help them out, then by all means go prot and help them catch up to you, and then you have a built-in team for dailies once you all get there.
Edited, Sep 4th 2008 4:07pm by jeromesimina
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Soloing ANY quest (including dailies) takes longer as prot. You never die (from the PvE stuff), but it takes forever to kill things.
Depends on what you're fighting, but mostly yes.
I stayed prot from level 10, except respeccing a few times to try different Holy specs. Shockadin was fun. Casters make me hate the game, as do mobs with frequent stuns, mobs with knockbacks, mobs with snares that run away to shoot you, and anything with mana drains. Healer mobs drive me especially crazy.
But when you find a quest that involves killing fast-hitting low-damage melee mobs that stick close together? Mount up, run through, pick up 3 or 4, or maybe more, and let them kill themselves on your shield.
Eventually you get to 70 and find the Demon Hunter training ground outside BT. 20 something guys all vs you alone. They all die, you're at 80% HP.
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