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So I downloaded the EJ spreadsheet and I would like to know if the Rough DPS is set on bosses. (I didn't find any tab to choose the enemy's level).
Also, what should be the unbuffed DPS requirement for rogues, for some of the first bosses in SSC? (no drums, no pots, no poisons, nothing (only talents)).

...you'll never be doing unbuffed DPS so it doesn't matter.

And as long as you've geared as high as you can, and have the appropriate pots you should be good for SSC.

If you really need to know what unbuffed DPS is just use the spreadsheet and disable all the buffs or set them to a false value. That will pull all added DPS from buffs out of the equation and you'll be left with just your gear and talents.



If you went the "nothing" just talents route your DPS would be 0, regardless of what the armor value is at. But most likely you're not talking about being naked so I'm going to ask which EJ spreadsheet are you running? Aldriana's or Vulajin's?

Aldrianna's you can change the boss to a caster boss or melee boss. Which will change the armor levels accordingly.

The early bosses in SSC are apparently around 6200 - 6500 armor the rest and majority are all 7700 armor value.

Just open the spreadsheet, put in your gear/talents and remove all the buffs and go with what it tells you. That's all I can suggest or I could hazard a guess and say 700. Complete out of the blue and most likely extremely off either highside or lowside not a clue.

The whole answer to your question about unbuffed DPS is most likely not going to be answered here, but by doing it yourself on the spreadsheet. I would but I'm not interested in my unbuffed DPS in 25 man raid situations as that will never happen and if it does, I'm in a VERY bad pug or I'm going to be /gquit'ing very shortly after I run and get my body.


*Edit for a stupid sentence

Edited, Aug 24th 2008 7:47am by FinalMeat

Thats pretty low for SSC unless you have no badge gear, and only Kara, Gruul, and Mag gear.

If you have Badge gear(read:fists), you should be upwards of 800.

EDIT:Also dont base your DPS off the Leo fight, base it off Morogrim if you want your baseline DPS. Leo doesnt give you too much sustained DPS time except in demon phases.

And since its Leo you definitly want 800ish DPS.

Edited, Aug 24th 2008 2:39pm by GodOfMoo

Ok so I stand corrected.

Went into Vulajin's sheet and used the default (full T6 rogue) pulled all the buffs out so there was nothing left but the rogue, the gear, and the enchants/gems on the equipment, sadly I couldn't get the deadly poison off the OH, but not that big of a deal. (this being the closest I could get to the OP's actual question)

It is reading 990.28 DPS. My completely random guess of 700 was way off the mark, of course someone doing SSC probably isn't going to be full T6 either, but we'll go with it.



I will now edit my answer and say 990.28. Because if a rogue goes in SSC Unbuffed they had BETTER be in full T6

Edited, Aug 26th 2008 6:20am by FinalMeat

T5. Ippon and other rogues (prior to T6 equivalents going on badges) were doing about 1500 DPS with ToA and S2 OHs back when S2 was out. (8+ months ago, now.)