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#1 Aug 22 2008 at 6:36 PM Rating: Decent
So my enh shammy is 47 now i was thinking about making a resto shaman for 70.

I asked my guild, and the responses were"

No mana,
SUCK!!
no one wants them
not good healer"

Asked in main chat:
Same thing


SO!!! what are resto shamanz good at healing, raid or arena? or both?

And what is thier "specialty"?

ALSO!!!

If i had a pretty deep spec into enh, and then a points in Resto.
-AND-

if i had a seperate gear for healing and ENH, could heal when 70?




Edited, Aug 22nd 2008 10:33pm by sushisbloodhoof
#2 Aug 22 2008 at 8:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Okay, this is gonna be a doozie.

SO!!! what are resto shamanz good at healing, raid or arena? or both?

Both, but not equally. Raiding we are just as good as anyone else, just specialize in raid healing rather than Paladin's or Priests. PvP we can be good, depends on the players skill. It's not like Warrior OMGFACEROLL skill.

And what is thier "specialty"?

Raid healing. Chain Heal FTW.


If i had a pretty deep spec into enh, and then a points in Resto.
-AND-

if i had a seperate gear for healing and ENH, could heal when 70?


Short answer: No!
Long answer: Possibly. It will suck, but with mana pots and a good tank and a good Resto set you can. Maybe things your level with some trouble (instance mainly) and things slightly or further below you, sure. But still not as good as Resto could.



Edited, Aug 23rd 2008 12:51am by CestinShaman
#3 Aug 23 2008 at 4:44 AM Rating: Good
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i easily outheal anything in most fights with chain heal.
(apart from the occasional skilled resto dr00ds)
the best fight for this is proberly Loot Reaver in TK..
just stand with the melee group and chain heal spam

but its pretty good in other fights with raid dmg aswell
trash in MH, Naj'entus fight .. etc, etc..

and with the right useage of totems, water shield and mp5 gear, you can bassicly last forever
(im using maybe 1 mana pot per fight, while a pally healing out MT will use 10)
so the mana isnt a real problem i find.

just try it out, and show your guild that resto shammys are simply awesome.
#4 Aug 23 2008 at 8:43 AM Rating: Good
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My guild is in T5 content right now and outside of our uber Resto Druid, noone is more useful as a healer than our Resto Shaman. Your guild is full of muppets. My suggestion: Run Away!
#5 Aug 23 2008 at 10:33 AM Rating: Good
This should get to some front page sticky so people would understand it: Every class with healing tree are capable to heal and every class with tank tree are capable to tank. While warriors are considered best single target tanks and paladins aoe tanks they can all do the job. In end game when fights get longer and harder people tend to find better class to do some specific job.

That is the place where things go "wrong". Leading guilds and web sites are giving instructions about end game and people forget that Kara and heroics are not end game. Go check wow europe shammy forum video threat where Shaman is only healer in kara. Fail? No.

We just did 80% of kara with 1 tankadin and did fine. So if someone says paladins suck at tanking I just dont know what to say. I love'em and love being a resto shammy. I always get credit about my healing when running Pug's and when pull goes wrong it's time for chain heal to shine outside off 25-mans.

So the question is, I think, what kinda guild are u in and what experiences they have had of shamans? No mana, well then the gear is problem and not class. Our watershield and manatotem/tide makes sure that we are manaefficient but if they want a MT healer for their under geared tank in kara then it's different story.

Make ur resto and learn the class. Get him geared and I guarantee that u will be desired to good guilds who actually knows different classes. Btw, sticky I believe had all these answers?

Edited, Aug 23rd 2008 8:31pm by Causa
#6 Aug 24 2008 at 8:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Since everyone else have already answered your restoshaman's viability questions, I shall go ahead and express my opinions on the answer your guild & server had had given you.

sushisbloodhoof wrote:
So my enh shammy is 47 now i was thinking about making a resto shaman for 70.

I asked my guild, and the responses were"

No mana,
SUCK!!
no one wants them
not good healer"

Your guild have no idea what they are talking about, leave them asap.

sushisbloodhoof wrote:
Asked in main chat:
Same thing

I assume you asked in trade chat? I advise you to transfer to another server asap.
#7 Aug 25 2008 at 4:09 AM Rating: Good
I agree with what everyone above has said. I have NO mana issues whatsoever. The pally healer in our guild goes OOM when I've still got over 75% of mine.

You're guild and that server need to learn about these things before they start "bashing" the class. If you go to other servers and other guilds, they will tell you that shamans are one of the best multi-target healers in game. Not only that, but we provide support in our group as well, with mana spring tide/ WoA, etc.

I have no problems getting into groups with my shammy, and it seems other guilds on the server are looking for shamans to heal in 25s.

Tell your guildies to get their heads out of their butts, and do some research.
#8 Aug 25 2008 at 5:34 AM Rating: Good
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Haha, well its apparent that they are either under educated on resto shamans or they were pulling your leg to see what you would say.

Resto shamans are excellent healers, and from the looks of it are getting buffed massively for the expansion.

Just one word of advice, just because you have a heal button doesnt mean that just anyone can heal, specing in talents for end-game healing is pretty much required unless you have a well geared group. Either start speccing heals now, get a good grasp on HOW TO HEAL, and end game you will be sucessful. :)

I hope that helps, as I see all to often people who desire to heal endgame get frustrated with the difficutly at times. Either you got it, or you dont. If you dont it will require more time practicing. Good luck! :)
#9 Aug 25 2008 at 6:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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sushisbloodhoof wrote:

No mana,
SUCK!!
no one wants them
not good healer"



HAHAHA! I remember the first time I tanked an instance with a Resto Shaman in Outland (I was alliance, I hadn't run into any before that).

No Mana - I distinctly remember waiting while he was at half mana to mana up - he said don't worry about it. Keep pulling, I'll let you know when I need a sec. He had half mana at that point. After the fight... he had MORE than half mana.

As for the rest? My tank was happiest when he had a Resto shaman healing in 5-mans and the raid utility is also obvious.
#10 Aug 25 2008 at 7:56 AM Rating: Decent
ok thx for replies.

Are shamans good at Arena or are Druids better for the healing part?
#11 Aug 25 2008 at 10:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Celcio wrote:
sushisbloodhoof wrote:

No mana,
SUCK!!
no one wants them
not good healer"



HAHAHA! I remember the first time I tanked an instance with a Resto Shaman in Outland (I was alliance, I hadn't run into any before that).

No Mana - I distinctly remember waiting while he was at half mana to mana up - he said don't worry about it. Keep pulling, I'll let you know when I need a sec. He had half mana at that point. After the fight... he had MORE than half mana.

As for the rest? My tank was happiest when he had a Resto shaman healing in 5-mans and the raid utility is also obvious.


You should come play with me. My shaman is ready to go resto.
#12 Aug 25 2008 at 11:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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MentalFrog wrote:
You should come play with me. My shaman is ready to go resto.


Creepy.

#13 Aug 25 2008 at 12:25 PM Rating: Good
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Druids are better arena healers than resto shammies. Shammies are easily interrupted or cs'd and dont have the escape mechanisms druids have. The most powerful resto shaman spell (earth shield) can be dispelled by more than half the classes.

Still, I'd rather have a resto shammy heal me than no one (and on my druid in arena I do). And restos are amazing healers in PvE. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a moron.
#14 Aug 26 2008 at 6:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Druids are better arena healers than resto shammies. Shammies are easily interrupted or cs'd and dont have the escape mechanisms druids have. The most powerful resto shaman spell (earth shield) can be dispelled by more than half the classes.

Still, I'd rather have a resto shammy heal me than no one (and on my druid in arena I do). And restos are amazing healers in PvE. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a moron.


This is true, resto shamans do have a hard time in arena.

But keep in mind, once the expansion comes out, and they get hex, plus how spelldamage/healing will change it wont be a bad idea to possibly hybrid a shaman ele/resto for arena. Im actually really thinking about doing this. :)
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