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Playing locks are so much fun and the easiest class to level. Ok, we all know that but don't let others know or all those n00b Hunters will become locktards. I have started 3 locks to play on differents server with 2 other people for the zebra mounts and that is a kick, 3x XP, free summons and give a level so you play to level 6 and then your buddy starts at level 4 before the first move. If you are cautious you can take down 3 mobs 1-2 levels higher than you. Never stop for anything except bag space. No need for buying gear, whatever drops works great. All in all, no questions (right now) just 3 cheers for Locks!
Sorry to say I've found entirely the opposite. I got a lock to level 15, kept dying over and over, and quit it. Lateron I went back to it and levelled it to 17. After playing for 10 minutes, I realized I just needed to l2p. After playing for 20 minutes, I realized warlocks are after all just damn annoying in the lower levels. I kept ending up fighting robots or undead, which you can't fear (or life drain, in the case of the robots). Effectively that meant that if I got one add I died, since I had no form of CC and was usually too weak to sustain the hits.
It got a little better when I figured I could tackle runaways with curse of recklesness, and reached 16 so I could buy sacrifice for my void walker. I suppose it's like the mage, you really need level 22-23 before you can actually kill more than one mob. At the moment I can't be bothered with leveling my 'lock anymore, though.
It got a little better when I figured I could tackle runaways with curse of recklesness, and reached 16 so I could buy sacrifice for my void walker. I suppose it's like the mage, you really need level 22-23 before you can actually kill more than one mob. At the moment I can't be bothered with leveling my 'lock anymore, though.
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Locks are fun and fast to level but it is very debatable when it comes to Hunters. I play a hunter and in taking a break from them i am doing a lock. They are both equal I feel, in some circumstances a lock will out shine a hunter but then in other circumstances a hunter will out shine a lock.
You really shouldn't be taking too many hits past level 10 anyway because you should be using a voidwalker. Voidwalker is a very good pet until about the 40's where his threat generation starts to become rather lackluster at which point (unless you switched to it earlier) you can switch to drain hunting with a succubus.
As for the fears, you really shouldn't need to fear any mobs unless they're elite or you have some sort of Howl of Terror massive DoT/Drain build. Even as an Oh **** button fear is pretty unreliable and I've found that the feared mob will often bring back more mobs.
As for the fears, you really shouldn't need to fear any mobs unless they're elite or you have some sort of Howl of Terror massive DoT/Drain build. Even as an Oh **** button fear is pretty unreliable and I've found that the feared mob will often bring back more mobs.
Agreed, I hardly get hit, big blue can hole 2-3 same level until they run and I am always topped off. I cast CoA, ImpCoruption and Immolate if they are same level. Green mobs I will just DoT and Wand-Shard Farm as needed. SB and all is slow and uses Mana. I just picked up a 20 DPS wand for a lvl 15, one happy lock!!
I realize I'm probably 'DOING IT WRONG'... It's just that I find it annoying to die so much; warlock and mage are the only classes on which that happens for me. Or happened, in the case of the mage.
Just relax, and take your time. My first toon was a human mage, long deleted. His highest skill was Swords. I never figured out cast from a distance, and cast many times. I would cast and when they hit me, I fight back. It was bad.
Mozared - Especially early, warlocks are about planning and patience. They really get remarkably efficient drain-hunters once you learn how to chain-pull with the voidwalker. Most young warlocks try to DPS too soon when they're drain-hunting, at least from what I've seen. You need to let the voidy establish aggro and realize that he's slower at it then a normal tank will be (generally speaking). Somewhere in the late teens on my lock is when chain-pulling started making sense (from a mechanics standpoint).
Hmm, thanks for the heads up. Fights should still be annoying against robots that can't be drained or feared, but I think I'm vaguely beginning to realize that you just cannot take shortcuts with low level locks and need to take your time. I'll give him another try soonish =)
@Mozared - this biggest thing that is a misconception about warlocks - especially people that have played for longer periods of time - is that warlocks can take a hit, whenever. While this is true later on, at early levels, warlocks are still cloth wearers. If you're used to melee classes, then things are totally differrent when you play a caster (early level warlocks are obscenely squishy, as are mages and priests).
True true... generally it's pretty logical too; on my mage, at least I could kite. On my priest, I could shield and heal (I got away with <1% hp more than often enough thanks to my shield). On my warlock, I can... errrr ? Cast a 1,5 second fear if the mob is subsceptible? Waste 3 seconds on letting my pet aggro the mob?
Look, once you get the Voidwalker it's all fun and games.
Target mob.
Send voidwalker.
Wait 3 seconds.
DOT.
Presume for a moment you know exactly how long to wait.
SB, Life Drain, or some other way to do damage. If it comes to you it's probably almost dead, if it's not almost dead try deathcoil.
Drain Soul.
Loot.
Later on you can do other crazier funner things but at the start this is the fool proof method of fighting mobs 1 by 1.
Bonus for every class with a pet is that you'll almost never get poisoned, debuffed, purged, manaburned, silenced, feared, cursed, diseased, bleeded, etc... It all happens to the pet. And if your Voidy has sucky debuffs or ran out of mana you can just sac him and summon new one, unscratched, with full HP and mana.
Edited, Aug 27th 2008 7:27pm by xorq
Target mob.
Send voidwalker.
Wait 3 seconds.
DOT.
Presume for a moment you know exactly how long to wait.
SB, Life Drain, or some other way to do damage. If it comes to you it's probably almost dead, if it's not almost dead try deathcoil.
Drain Soul.
Loot.
Later on you can do other crazier funner things but at the start this is the fool proof method of fighting mobs 1 by 1.
Bonus for every class with a pet is that you'll almost never get poisoned, debuffed, purged, manaburned, silenced, feared, cursed, diseased, bleeded, etc... It all happens to the pet. And if your Voidy has sucky debuffs or ran out of mana you can just sac him and summon new one, unscratched, with full HP and mana.
Edited, Aug 27th 2008 7:27pm by xorq
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True true... generally it's pretty logical too; on my mage, at least I could kite. On my priest, I could shield and heal (I got away with <1% hp more than often enough thanks to my shield). On my warlock, I can... errrr ? Cast a 1,5 second fear if the mob is subsceptible? Waste 3 seconds on letting my pet aggro the mob?
Yep that's pretty much the sum of it. It does become a little easier when you get Drain Life, though, and can spec Fel Concentration (affliction is the leveling tree, period). Until around 40, you pretty much play like a hunter does; send voidwalker in, let it aggro, proceed to dps. 40 makes life easier, especially as affliction, as you can drain tank with your imp out, you have Death Coil and Howl of Terror (which you can spec to be instant) and all other manner of tools to make your life easy.
If I had the money to respec all the time, I'd go with a 40/21/0 spec for iHoT and Demo Sac.
TherionSaysWhat wrote:
Mozared - Especially early, warlocks are about planning and patience. They really get remarkably efficient drain-hunters once you learn how to chain-pull with the voidwalker. Most young warlocks try to DPS too soon when they're drain-hunting, at least from what I've seen. You need to let the voidy establish aggro and realize that he's slower at it then a normal tank will be (generally speaking). Somewhere in the late teens on my lock is when chain-pulling started making sense (from a mechanics standpoint).
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I kept ending up fighting robots or undead, which you can't fear (or life drain, in the case of the robots)
Where are you leveling to find only robots and undead mobs at such a low level? The only place I can think of that has robots low level is VC but that's an instance and there's barely any robots. Besides that I can't think of any start zone with robots (or at least a zone with only-mostly robots and can't just move 20 yards to another type).
Also the only starting zone with an abundant amount of undead is the Undead starting zone which im pretty sure has no robots.
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I kept ending up fighting robots or undead, which you can't fear (or life drain, in the case of the robots)
Where are you leveling to find only robots and undead mobs at such a low level? The only place I can think of that has robots low level is VC but that's an instance and there's barely any robots. Besides that I can't think of any start zone with robots (or at least a zone with only-mostly robots and can't just move 20 yards to another type).
Also the only starting zone with an abundant amount of undead is the Undead starting zone which im pretty sure has no robots.
Westfall has a ton of mechanicals, which were damned annoying to me too.
Westfall has barely any mechanicals except for the ones on the fields which only help for 1 quest. You can EASILY move 10 yards and find some beasts or humanoids for the 20 other quests there.
In diverse zones like westfall, if you having trouble killing one type of mob and dying constantly on one quest, just change mobs. It would take less time just grinding (especially at that level) than having to run back constantly and killing mobs at a slow rate. That's also just general advice for any class leveling not just locks.
Edited, Sep 3rd 2008 7:36pm by Tugnus
In diverse zones like westfall, if you having trouble killing one type of mob and dying constantly on one quest, just change mobs. It would take less time just grinding (especially at that level) than having to run back constantly and killing mobs at a slow rate. That's also just general advice for any class leveling not just locks.
Edited, Sep 3rd 2008 7:36pm by Tugnus
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Where are you leveling to find only robots and undead mobs at such a low level?
Ghostlands... The quests that send you into the catacombs filled with zombie Trolls. Then the lake next to it, which is filled with undead spirits. And last the tower to the east of that where you need to collect an item for the Dar'khan quest chain... It's filled with the robots you also see in Karazhan.
In fact, some Trolls, Night Elves, Bats and Lynxes are the only living creatures in the zone. Aside from maybe some murlocs near the coast, but there aren't any quests for those.
alcattle the Braindead wrote:
Playing locks are so much fun and the easiest class to level. Ok, we all know that but don't let others know or all those n00b Hunters will become locktards.
I can see you had 2 hunters previously..Hummm
Yes I plead temporary n00bness, until I found the soul of evil and pray to the goddess of all locks to pardon my past wanderings. I will stay the path of DoT and bow to no one, except damn Rogues
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Hi everyone!
Well now, im a lvl 59 (soon 60) lock. This is my first char in wow, i played it for around six months now. I know its a bit slow, but nowhere to hurry :D In the very beginning it s***ed, but for around lvl 20 i alway did this:
1. send void on two or three mobs
2. dot them all
3. damage the one that is aggroed by my void
if any comes to me, damage that or redot if needed
and i rarely use fear, only against outside elites
the most important is to keep the maximum possible distance form the opponents without getting out of range
i recently started a warrior for fun but i think im gonna keep it
i also got two priests, but i only created those because my guild needs priests and no priests seem willing to join :D
Well now, im a lvl 59 (soon 60) lock. This is my first char in wow, i played it for around six months now. I know its a bit slow, but nowhere to hurry :D In the very beginning it s***ed, but for around lvl 20 i alway did this:
1. send void on two or three mobs
2. dot them all
3. damage the one that is aggroed by my void
if any comes to me, damage that or redot if needed
and i rarely use fear, only against outside elites
the most important is to keep the maximum possible distance form the opponents without getting out of range
i recently started a warrior for fun but i think im gonna keep it
i also got two priests, but i only created those because my guild needs priests and no priests seem willing to join :D
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