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#1 Aug 20 2008 at 4:39 PM Rating: Decent
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I did my first raids last week with mixed results. Did a couple of 25 mans and all of kara and some of ZA. I got healbot but I have not used it yet and did not use it. They would just tell me to heal the raid. So I just put earth shield on a tank and spamed chain heal on anything and everything. Which isn't to bad in 10 man's but is a bit of a pain for 25's. I am sure practice will help, but any advice or websites or links or secrets of the experts is greatly appreciated. Also in 25 mans what do you do if you see someone going down that is not in range, do you try and find them and get in range or just move on. Thanks
#2 Aug 20 2008 at 5:20 PM Rating: Good
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oldmanwow wrote:
So I just put earth shield on a tank and spamed chain heal on anything and everything.

Good and not so good. You should always keep Earth Shield up on a tank, but don't just mindlessly spam Chain Heal. It's a very efficient heal only if it reaches its maximum potential on all three targets and it's expensive either way, so don't be afraid to use Healing Wave or Lesser Healing Wave even if you're on raid duty. Unfortunately, this is not something that can be taught. It's a judgement call based on circumstances.

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Also in 25 mans what do you do if you see someone going down that is not in range, do you try and find them and get in range or just move on. Thanks

Again, that's a judgement call depending on the circumstances. On a fight like Gruul where healing is very intensive raid-wide and everyone is spread out, you can't possibly be expected to run around chasing everyone with low health and keep them all topped off. All of the healers have a responsibility here to be spread out as such that there is always at least one healing in range of everyone, and anything beyond that falls on the shoulders of the people who need the healing. Tanks obviously can't just drop what they're doing and go look for a healer, but DPS certainly can. (And they can also back off and go bandage, etc.)

As a healer, your job is to do as much as you can within your means, but you can't do everything.
#3 Aug 20 2008 at 8:30 PM Rating: Good
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I would have to say that spamming Chain heal on everyone and anyone that needs a heal is about the best thing you can do as a resto shammy. Mana should not really be a problem for you once you get into the 25 man raids, i can spam the top rank chain heal for about 8-9 minutes before i run out of mana, and that is a lot of healing.

The only time i would say to use greater heal is if you have mana problems, and lesser heal is just a waste of mana unless they really really really need a fast heal.
#4 Aug 20 2008 at 9:53 PM Rating: Good
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Greengimp has a point. When I was raiding I could pretty much spam on everyone and do fine on mana, a pot every now and again. But I found that you can actually use Rank 3 or 4 instead of 5. The healing isn't damaged very much, but mana does alot better.
#5 Aug 21 2008 at 4:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Generally I do the same thing, even toss up an earth shield, drop totems, heal with a rank 4 chain heal on raid and higher if necessary, after 2-3 heals, I check tank to make sure earth shield is still up and refresh if necessary, rinse/repeat.

Usually since my +heal is high enough and im one of the better geared healers in our guild, generally they do stick me with healing the main tank first and raid heals on melee dps. It works out fine, spam chain heal on tank while melee gets chains.

I really love the new inscription - add another jump on chain heal. Amazing! I sure hope that shaman's arent gimped when it comes to healing in the expansion. I love my shaman healer!
#6 Aug 21 2008 at 4:57 AM Rating: Good
Everyone gave good advice. On the topic of chasing down a player low on health... DON'T DO IT! As a healer, we don't have time to keep moving around just to heal one person low on health. There are other healers too, and hopefully (on fights like Gruul), your healers are spread out. So whoever is the closest should toss a heal over to the low health person.

The only time we would have to move on fights like Gruul is with the cave in... obviously.

If you need/want to, make a macro stating you can't reach someone to heal them. It definitely will get easier though, just a little practice and you'll do fine. You'll soon figure out who and what's a priority (minus heal assigns), and how to work with things being crazy all around you.
#7 Aug 21 2008 at 6:32 AM Rating: Good
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Spamming chainheal is the strategy used for new raid healers. I used to do this and would always find myself short on mana. Over time you will learn to control overhealing and become more mana efficient.

Also, I recommend that on fights like Shade of Aran (where there is no aggro table) you use Earthshield on a caster or healer (other than yourself) as it helps with spell pushback.
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#8 Aug 21 2008 at 1:19 PM Rating: Decent
Best guide I've ever read is over on EJ:
http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t24796-shaman_restoration/

Another good guide:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=AD466C185A441B134CFF32B16783190E?topicId=2043948355&sid=1

Great list of which abilities work on which bosses:
http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t19181-shaman_how_heal_like_pro/

Amazing gear list:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665556793&postId=46649270835&sid=1


As for "Brain Heal spam", it's not just a matter of mana efficiency. CH is comparatively efficient. At +2000 heals, full rank chain heal (on only one target) is more mana efficient than any rank lesser healing wave. Chain heal 4 (on only one target) is more mana efficient than full rank healing wave (with no healing way) as well as LHW. BUT you also need to consider the healing/second as well as the healing/mana. It doesn't matter if you end the fight with half a mana bar if you have crummy healing throughput, which is what happens with CH spam with no jumps. Conversely, our highest possible heal/sec (AND, incidentally, heal/mana) comes from chain heal if it jumps--healing wave only gets close when healing way is stacked.

So: when in doubt, brain heal. When you're sure it has no chance to jump, healing wave.
#9 Sep 03 2008 at 1:15 AM Rating: Default
i use to raid end game content into sunwell and a shamans job is to chain heal we are raid healers of course throw in sum regular heals here and there but the majority of the time u gona be chain healing. dont worry bout overhealing it is a must as u go into bt/hyjal u have to pre cast if the tank if full then cancel ur heal simple. u have to keep ur tank top off because off crazy spike dmg. mana should not be an issue because by that time ur gona have lots of mp5/manatide. for example brutallus fight in sunwell all ur gona do is chainheal. both 2pc and 4pc t6 is for chainheals
#10 Sep 06 2008 at 9:31 AM Rating: Decent
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The two "biggest" raid heals in the game are Chain Heal and CoH. CoH is instant... Chain heal IS NOT. For this reason, Shamans DO generally need to mindlessly spam chain heal. Keeping the raid as high as possible on health is necessary. You sometimes can expect when the raid will take damage and where it will come. Perfect example is Brut in Sunwell. There's NO need to mindlessly spam chain heal. I heal my side from meteor slashes when it's on my side. Then he switches to the other side and I healing wave spam the MT and time for Stomp. Then back to chain heal on my side.

Fights like Gruul's or Hydross, you don't really know where and when damage will happen. And "spot" healing with chain heal is the best route. In the time it takes to cast chain heal, more raid damage may happen around that target, and you now INSTANTLY healed it instead of waiting for them to all take damage and now they have to wait for your healing wave/lesser to finish and then the cast time of your chain heal to finish. In all that time, you could lose 3 raid members that could potentially have been saved by chain heal.

In honesty, it all depends on the fight and how familiar you are with the other healers and your raid. If you are unfamiliar, your heal ratio should be 98%'ish chain heal. It will do you the best. It's smarter than any caster. Once you are "good" your percent will still be 90%-95% chain heal for most encounters. The spell is THAT good. It's rare that you'll cast something else more than 10% of the time. The only time I can remember doing more healing with something other than Chain Heal WAS on Brut and that was with healing wave on the other group's MT.
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