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#1 Aug 13 2008 at 10:08 AM Rating: Decent
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I am currently wearing the Beast Lord Handguards with one {+8 Agil} and one {+4 Agil, +6 Stam} gem socketed in them. From this item I get:
+37 Agil
+34 AP
+18 Stam
+17 Intel
+3 Hit

I recently got the Demon Stalker Gauntlets and stuck them in my bank as they provide:
+28 Agil
+58 AP
+24 Stam
+24 Intel
+6 MP/5

If I were to use the DSG I would end up doing this to my stats:
-9 Agil
+24 AP
+6 Stam
+7 Intel
-3 Hit
+6 MP/5

Am I being foolish by keeping the BLH on instead of the DSG? Is there a point where sacrificing Agil for other stats to improve personal performance is worth while? If so, is there any rule of thumb about what stats would roughly be worth 1 Agil for a SV Hunter? I'm hoping someone can help me with this example so I can evaluate items in the future with the correct information. Thanks in advance.

(If this has been posted about recently, I'm sorry. Please link me that thread and I'll read there. I'm at work so I don't have a ton of time to browse posts.)

#2 Aug 13 2008 at 10:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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1 Agility = 1 Ranged Attack Power (RAP)
40 Agility = 1% Crit (at level 70)

14 RAP = 1 DPS

22.3 Crit Rating = 1% Crit




Taken directly from my guide in my sig, as well as many other places on this forum (including the sticky).

Personally speaking if you're using the Beast Lord Hanguards to achieve the requirements for your Meta-Socket bonus, then keep them on. If you require the hit to stay capped (while raiding), then keep the Beast Lord as well. As SV, yes we want to be agility junkies, but at the same time your raids have to warrant even using an SV hunter as a DPS role. If you're strictly after agility, then go with the Beast Lord Hanguards, if you want a little extra damage and survivability go with the Demon Stalker.

SV is about adding raid DPS with sustained DPS by yourself. If your raids are typically Physical DPSer's, then your overall DPS will be much greater then that of a BM. Now please BM's don't take this the wrong way, but an SV will add more RAID damage overall, not PERSONAL damage, over you. Again this is under the assumption that you have more physical DPSer's.

For example, in a typical raid boss fight for my guild, we have around 10-12 physical DPSer's. With my agility raid buffed, I have roughly 1224 agility. This puts my EW at roughly 306 added AP for all our physical damagers. On average, I'm adding anywhere between 970-1080 Raid DPS (greatly depends on raid setup, but this is a typical raid for my guild). My personal DPS is anywhere from 1700-1800, most of our BM's personal DPS is from 2000-2100. Now adding the EW Raid DPS to myself, it puts me well over them, but it will never show as my DPS, not to mention other factors come into play. Movement of the boss, how long physical dps can keep their sustained damage, deaths, etc. Where as BM add 3% damage to their group upon pet crits, I'm adding 306 AP to every physical DPSer regardless of the group.

Back on topic:
The evaluation comes from you. SV requires a lot of agility, but you need to find a balance between your agility and your personal DPS. If your raid is more consisted of physical DPS over caster type, go for more agility. If it's not, go for more personal DPS items. At your point in raiding, you don't have to much to choose from just yet, but that will change as you advance higher in raiding progression.

*EDIT*
After looking at your armory, it appears that the blue socket in your gloves and the blue socket in your bracer's are the only thing keeping you at the bare minimum requirement for your Meta Gem in your helm. Stick with the Beast Lord Gloves, or prepare to re-socket one of your items to compensate for the loss of the blue gem.

Edited, Aug 13th 2008 11:39am by Joobishwun
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