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#1 Aug 12 2008 at 5:13 AM Rating: Decent
Do paladins take longer to level then other classes? i ask this because i made a rogue just for fun and i got him from 1-40 in like 2 weeks and it took me like 2-3 months to get my protection paladin to level 40.
#2 Aug 12 2008 at 5:21 AM Rating: Decent
I've been playing at irregular intervals for 2 years, and my main pally is only just lvl 31, nearly 32...so I'm not sure. But I also noticed that pallys aren't very good a pvping, well, my pally isn't. I asked around in my realm, and a lot of them said that pallys were good at pvp, which basically means I'm absolutely rubbish at lvling and pvping lol :)

EDIT: (( By regualar intervals i mean something like 1 weekend per 4 months xD, but I've been playing for the last month and I got from level 28 I think to my current level...but I have been playing pretty much all day every day xD ))

Edited, Aug 12th 2008 11:40am by Malikoshu
#3 Aug 12 2008 at 6:35 AM Rating: Good
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That madness. My first toon is a ret pally, and it was four months from 0 to pre-heroics geared 70 while playing other toons and holding down a full time job...
#4 Aug 12 2008 at 7:12 AM Rating: Decent
how could you do that in 4 months? unless you just did quest after quest after quest
#5 Aug 12 2008 at 7:41 AM Rating: Default
I was about to ask that...you must have been playing 24/7 the whole time...or you bought a power-leveling thing off the web...?
#6 Aug 12 2008 at 7:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Powerlevelling is NOT required to level a paladin fast, and it is also HIGHLY frowned upon by everyone here, as well as against the Blizzard terms you agree to when you install the game.

That being said, the speed at which you level depends not so much upon your class as how familliar you are with the game.

My first toon has taken FOREVER (like 25 days of /played time) to get to 70, but I have enjoyed every minute of it. I have an alt that I rolled to see what it would be like to be prot from level 10 on rather that levelling as Ret, and I have hit level 32 in 3 days of /played time. 10 levels per day of actual /played time is not hard at all if you get rested in a city or inn every time you log off, and you do your quests efficiently, as well as run instances at the appropriate level. Right now, my alt has 1.5 levels worth of blue bar, and I need to run SM library, level a few times, and then run all of SM and then run Uldaman. By that time, I will be 40+ easily, and it should only take me maybe 8-10 hours of actual /played time on him to accomplish all of that.

If you are going efficiently, I would think that 7 to 10 days of actual /played time would be sufficient to make it to 70. Some people have made it in half of that time without any powerlevelling.

SO... lets say you are on the slower end of this scale and it takes you 10 days of /played time to hit 70. That is 240 hours played on that particular toon. Say you play that toon only 3 hours per day (which gives you lots of rested exp)... 3 hours per day for 80 days = 240 hours, take 10 days off for vacation, that is level 70 in 3 months. Not unrealistic at all, and actually slower than quite a few people who are REALLY familliar with the game.
#7 Aug 12 2008 at 8:08 AM Rating: Decent
That makes me feel like I'm a noob cos I still gain 1 level pretty much every 2 days...:(
I must be REALLY bad at leveling.
#8 Aug 12 2008 at 8:33 AM Rating: Good
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That makes me feel like I'm a noob cos I still gain 1 level pretty much every 2 days...:(
I must be REALLY bad at leveling.


Don't take this the wrong way, but you are not leveling efficiently at all. But - as long as you are having fun, then all is good.

The general rule of thumb is to pick up all the quests in a quest hub, then go do them all, then turn them all in. You can level very efficiently that way.

Honestly though, I've leveled most of my alts by running over 50% instances. They generally gain a level every 2-4 hours. Most instance runs will give you almost a level of xp if you're rested. If you do all the instance quests...double that. For example, I collected all the quests needed for ZF (took about 1 hour). Then, I ran ZF (took about 2 hours, including LFG time). Then, turned in all the quests (took about 20 mins). I gained about 2 levels doing that. So 2 levels in 3 hrs and 20 mins. Not too shabby :)

Things like that can speed up your leveling :) Also, I personally like running instances more than questing, so it's a win win for me.

EDIT - My spelling sux...

Edited, Aug 12th 2008 1:13pm by YJMark
#9 Aug 12 2008 at 9:03 AM Rating: Decent
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YJMark wrote:
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That makes me feel like I'm a noob cos I still gain 1 level pretty much every 2 days...:(
I must be REALLY bad at leveling.


Don't take this the wrong way, but you are not leveling efficiently at all. But - as long as you are having fun, then all is good.

THe general rule of thumb is to pick up all teh quests in a quest hub, then go do them all, then trun them all in. You can level very efficiently that way.


As people on these forums like to say now, "This."

Go to an appropriately levelled quest hub (like Darkshire if you are around level 30) and do ALL of the quests there. FIRST do all the ones that DO NOT REQUIRE YOU TO RUN ALL OVER THE PLANET. Do all of the ones right there and turn them in, THEN do the ones that require you to run all over the planet. One of the running around quests will generally bring you to the NEXT viable quest hub for your level, where you just repeat the process.

It doesn't really matter how fast you level as long as you enjoy the game, but a little planning and efficiency never hurts. Look up the quests by zone here on this site and it should give you a very good idea of where to go, what quests to do, and which quests have cool rewards.

Also don't cram your quest log with (Dungeon) quests that you may not do for a few days until you drum up the necessary time to devote to a dungeon. Make sure you have any that cannot be shared by others, but drop all of the dungeons quests that can be shared. Then, when you are ready to do the dungeon, either go pick up the quests just beforehand, or have someone in the party share quests with you. This leaves far more room in your quest log for quests you can solo and/or do in small groups.
#10 Aug 12 2008 at 10:40 AM Rating: Good
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I used to really enjoy the levelling game, but after the first half-dozen 60s pre-BC it got to the point where I just wanted to cruise through quickly. I got bored of levelling through Outland even quicker.. I think I did two chars through there before starting to cut corners. I'm pretty sure I have 10 level 60s sitting around that I havn't played since TBC launch, and I have 6 70s (2 of which I got to 60 pre-BC, the other 4 are new).

Two of the new 70s (inc. my current Main Prot Pally) I levelled the "normal" way of questing/killing and they took maybe 4 weeks each to hit 70 (despite popular oppinions with some of the people I know, I have other stuff to do besides WoW.. if I played 16/7 they would take about a week each).

The other 2 are on a different account than my Main, and I dual-log carried them through instances to 60 then cruised through Outland for a grand total of about 2 weeks levelling time (a few days /played). All things considered, it went faster than any account I've heared of anyone solo-levelling the "old fashioned" way, but to be fair it can't be compared to that since they're totally different methods. And not many people could stand mass-instancing for long periods of time. Not to mention it doesn't really work (efficiently) without a Protection Paladin.

To 20 - SFK
To 45 - SM:Cath & Uldaman
To 60 - Stratholme

At the end of the day though, I'm an end-game freak. I don't PvP pretty much at all on any of my chars (barely enough to get the PvP trinket on my DPSers, havn't even bothered on Tanks/Healers). I collect things, I crunch numbers, I plan strategies, and I watch them come to fruition. The levelling game is extremely satisfying, especially the first couple of times you go through it. Consider yourself lucky to have so much time with it on some of your earlier chars.

As for the OP.. yes -- it has been observed that Paladins (esp. Prot in your case) tend to kill things a little slower, which means levelling slower for people who don't have intimite knowlege of the game (ie. the kind of "cruise control" you get into after bringing 5 or so chars to the level cap). When you know it inside-and-out though... all of the classes take about the same time to level.
#11 Aug 12 2008 at 10:57 AM Rating: Decent
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That madness. My first toon is a ret pally, and it was four months from 0 to pre-heroics geared 70 while playing other toons and holding down a full time job...


Same here but I did it as protection spec. I am casual player at best and it took me 5 months to level my PLD to 70. I too have a full time job and wife that really doesn't like me playing. So I play for a few hours after she goes to bed and then in the mornings on weekends while she sleeps. 4 months isn't out of the question at all. Of course I did none of the party required content in between. Just soloed my way for everything to 70.
#12 Aug 12 2008 at 12:38 PM Rating: Good
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it definitely depends on your knowledge of WoW and the type of game and also the amount of time put in. my first toon was a holy pally from level 10 till now. it took me nearly over a year to get to 60. i made it right as TBC came out. this was my first game of this type i'd played and i had no clue what i was doing. i had no clue what a talent was or even that there different trees till i was about lvl 30ish. needless to say leveling was slow and i had to learn alot about the game. after TBC came out i made another pally (ret) that took me around 4 months to get to 70. i don't claim still to be a fast leveler. however, getting my second to 70 in 4 months while still playing my main a lot was quite an accomplishment.

if you're leveling slow, don't feel bad. enjoy it, learn about the game and if you want to level faster practice efficient questing (helps to get an addon like questhelper).
#13 Aug 12 2008 at 1:43 PM Rating: Decent
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I think you are worrying to much , most different classes i have tried have taken different amounts of time for me to gain levels , my guess is the fastest ones are the ones i find the easiest like hunters and mages , rogue i am very slow with yet you said 2 weeks to 40 which is not so bad , i have friends that can race almost any class to 70 , they all say once you have done the levels once you are sure to level another alt twice as fast .

For me though i enjoy the levelling part not so much fun with the 70 stuff you can get involved with though , I can agree it is possible to get to 70 very fast and i have done it once in around a full weeks play but for me it was not much fun and i had very little gold , luckily my other alts did have gold . I guess what i am trying to say is take your time and have fun while learning the game , what you will find is any characters you create now will level a whole lot faster anyway , or at least to the highest level you have now managed to get as you now know what to expect.

#14 Aug 13 2008 at 5:17 AM Rating: Default
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Another way to level faster is to download Questhelper from curse.com. It tells you exactly where to go, and what to kill when you get to the area. Some people say its cheating. I say your not trying if your not cheating. Besides noone wants to be a lowbie forever.

Edit: Didn't notice you mentioned questhelper earlier tool :P

Edited, Aug 13th 2008 9:16am by Feyras
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#15 Aug 13 2008 at 6:06 AM Rating: Decent
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I cannot remember with how was those levels with my 70s. But lately I have been leveling a shaman (enh) and paly (prot). And my paly was slower than my shaman, the shaman (dual wield of course) was lots of numbers with some crit and the mob died FAST! But I have to watch my aggro! :)

On my prot paly, questing/grinding isn't hard, I must pay attention to my aggro.. but just to make sure I only aggro 10 of them.. not 20 :D I find it interesting grinding with the paly... but only when aoe grinding, against one mob, it's sooo boring :D And... I REALLY hate casters!

Is it so painful that I will stop leveling my paly? not at all! Yes it's kinda slower than my enhancement shamy, but not by THAT far! And I'm having a blast leveling my paly. That's the important thing, isn't it ?
#16 Aug 14 2008 at 3:22 AM Rating: Default
firstly, i would like to say you are using the wrong build for 'fast' leveling. unfortunately, being a hybrid class also means that you have to use all the tools at your disposal to be effective at your role. in this case, you'd want a faster kill rate for leveling. not to say that you couldnt level with other specs, but ret is the best way to go.

secondly, use questhelper or carbonite quest (both addons) to help you familiarize yourself with the various quests. its the idiot proof way to play the game. you dont even have to read quest text 75% of the time.
#17 Aug 14 2008 at 9:51 AM Rating: Good
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Paly is generally considered to be slower in leveling, but that's a general statement.

Anyone that levels holy will go the slowest
Anyone that spec's tank will go the next slowest (Exception being druids who use cat form)
Anyone who spec's efficient DPS is next
Fastest being anyone who has a pet. (Locks/Hunters)


So a holy paly will lvl slower than a Prot Paly. The prot paly will level slower than a Ret Paly.

I've found paly lvling to be very fun as Prot, and do not mind the time spent.
#18 Aug 14 2008 at 10:14 AM Rating: Default
To answer the original question: Considering all the classes are specced for leveling, the paladin is the last.
#19 Aug 14 2008 at 12:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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To answer the original question: Considering all the classes are specced for leveling, the paladin is the last.


I would disagree here. A Ret Paladin can level just as fast as most classes. Their DPS can be just as good as any other non-pet using class, and their survivability is much greater too.

Leveling speed is much more reliant on how you level, and not what class you level.
#20 Aug 15 2008 at 11:28 AM Rating: Decent
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To answer the original question: Considering all the classes are specced for leveling, the paladin is the last.


I also disagree with that statement. That is effectively saying that the Pally is the slowest leveling class in the game.

I think the only thing you can say with absolute certainty is that we ARE NOT THE FASTEST.

Your method of leveling is by far more important than the class you choose to level.

Quest grinds are the most efficient way to level.
Mob AOE Grinding is next
Followed by single mob grinding.

Personally, I just know of a few places where I can bang through quests - Searing Gorge is a great spot IMO. I also know that a 1 or 2 runs of BRD will get me some great EXP (Particularly if I'm in a Rested state.) However, Just a few levels back - I found that Un'Goro crater is not as quick (From a pure questing standpoint.) I also noticed that ZF didn't seem to net as good of EXP...

So - when am moving from 40-55. I will hit Un'Goro, but I really grind it out there. I don't visit ZF unless I have (or the group has) the mallet. I just find from an EXP standpoint - it's a bit of a waste. However, When I enter the S. Gorge area, I'm on constant lookout for BRD parties, cause I know the EXP is good.

Maybe it's just me... But I find you method of Leveling is more important than WHAT you are leveling.
#21 Aug 15 2008 at 11:50 AM Rating: Default
YKMark wrote:
I would disagree here. A Ret Paladin can level just as fast as most classes. Their DPS can be just as good as any other non-pet using class, and their survivability is much greater too.

I don't want to be rude here, but there is ALWAYS a class that levels the slowest. An experienced player will level a paladin slower than any other class. A newb will also level a paladin slowest. A ret pala in greens wil level slower than an enchancement shaman in greens. A ret pala in blues will level slower than an arms/fury warrior in blues. All this mean the pala is the slowest.
So if you think the paladin is not the slowest, considering a person levels any class with the same skill, gear and knowledge, then who is it?

Edited, Aug 15th 2008 3:49pm by roflmaos
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