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#1 Aug 08 2008 at 10:11 AM Rating: Decent
Hello all,

I am a fairly new raider but have done mostly every heroic and do very well there. My question is about spell hit. When I run normal instances I never get resists. When i run heroics occasionally I do say one or 2 out of 20 casts...My question is i am mainly a fire mage (2/48/11) spec and have pretty nice gear I think here is the link:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Farstriders&n=Elmago

Now when i do heroics or karazhan I sometime (not always) switch to spell hit gear if I notice resists more to get to 164 spell hit as I hear that is the cap for mages. When I do that I lose like 80 spell damage and like 7% of my crit (have like 19& unbuffed. Now do you suggest I always use my spell hit gear for all instances or can I use my current gear for and save spell hit gear for like gruul's/mags/ssc/tk/mh?

Also I do have like 80 badges also and 4500 gold (was saving for epic mount) but now am contemplating buying belt of blasting the rest of the blessings deck and using badges for either boots of incantations or icon of the silver crescent or save them for the legs and chest w/ spell hit from the badge lady in isle of q (think the chest is called shroud of lorenai). Only badge gear I have atm is the fetish of the primal gods. I am spell hit capped with current gear but have less spell damage and crit cause spell hit gear is mostly blues (robe of crimson order and some other heroic blue drops. Do you think I need better gear for what I am about to start running or can i buy my epic mount now?

Last question I have is I like to pvp and sometimes find myself asked to do a heroic and i am specced pvp'd(i like 33/28 pom pyro spec). I used to pay the 45 gold each time to respec but sometime just roll arc/fire for heroics if I feel the heroic is easy and am feeling cheap. Now do I need 164 spell hit for this spec as well or just for 2/48/11? Cause I thought you needed less spell hit when you rolled arcane but a mage in my guild that runs hyjal and stuff told me I need 164 for any spec. Also what spell rotation do you suggest if I do run say heroic slave pens as arc/fire pom pyro? I am still the top damager as this spec anyways and dont find myself OOM but really dont know what to cast I just nuke the daylights out of everything as if I was pvping..lol.

p.s (dont laugh at my 2 v 2 team rating its me and my 8 yr old daughter that is my partner hey we went 5 and 5 last week!)

All comments appreciated!!

Edited, Aug 8th 2008 2:16pm by xxElmagoxx
#2 Aug 08 2008 at 10:10 PM Rating: Good
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xxElmagoxx wrote:
Now do you suggest I always use my spell hit gear for all instances or can I use my current gear for and save spell hit gear for like gruul's/mags/ssc/tk/mh?


In raids(Kara and beyond), spell hit gear is the better choice for when fighting bosses. Feel free to use other gear for clearing trash, but I find it to be too much of a hassle to do so, personally.

xxElmagoxx wrote:
Do you think I need better gear for what I am about to start running or can i buy my epic mount now?


Buy the epic mount now. You'll be able to make back the gold so you can spend it on gear more easily when you can fly faster. It's a purchase I don't think you'll regret.

xxElmagoxx wrote:
am contemplating buying belt of blasting the rest of the blessings deck and using badges for either boots of incantations or icon of the silver crescent or save them for the legs and chest w/ spell hit from the badge lady in isle of q (think the chest is called shroud of lorenai). Only badge gear I have atm is the fetish of the primal gods. I am spell hit capped with current gear but have less spell damage and crit cause spell hit gear is mostly blues (robe of crimson order and some other heroic blue drops.


There are tons of solid choices for upgrades. The boots or chest will certainly last you until T6 instances, so consider those. The Icon is nice, but consider instead going for a Timbal's Focusing Crystal in heroic MgT(it isn't bad for fire mages) to go with your Quag's Eye and using those badges for some other much needed upgrades first. Also consider the badge ring. It's a nice epic ring with a solid amount of spell hit.

Also, consider a Chaotic Skyfire Diamond instead of your Mystical Skyfire Diamond. It's a much better choice since the nerfs to the MSD, IMO.

xxElmagoxx wrote:
Last question I have is I like to pvp and sometimes find myself asked to do a heroic and i am specced pvp'd(i like 33/28 pom pyro spec). I used to pay the 45 gold each time to respec but sometime just roll arc/fire for heroics if I feel the heroic is easy and am feeling cheap. Now do I need 164 spell hit for this spec as well or just for 2/48/11? Cause I thought you needed less spell hit when you rolled arcane but a mage in my guild that runs hyjal and stuff told me I need 164 for any spec. Also what spell rotation do you suggest if I do run say heroic slave pens as arc/fire pom pyro? I am still the top damager as this spec anyways and dont find myself OOM but really dont know what to cast I just nuke the daylights out of everything as if I was pvping..lol.


If you're casting fire spells, then you'd actually need MORE hit than with the 2/48/11. Hit cap breakdown(approximate, doing from memory so may be a few points off)

Arcane spells(5/5 Arcane Focus): 76
Frost Spells(3/3 Elemental Precision): 126
Fire Spells(3/3 Elemental Precision): 164
Fire/Frost Spells(no Elemental Precision): 202
Arcane Spells: No Arcane Focus): 202

As for a rotation for an Arc/Fire build? About the same as you would with a deep fire build, to be honest. With a PoM Pyro thrown in once in a while.
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