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Hey there guys and gals. I was recently asked to try to get a tanking set for the guild. We don't have too many tanks. I'm usually holy so the tanking thing is better new to me. After looking at Losie's stickey I got a good idea on what gear and stuff I need. I got a good bit of them last night. I ahve the flesteel Helm in the mail so thats coming.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Korialstrasz&n=Walsher

Im just missing rings, trinkets, wrist, libram and boots. Im wondering if after I spec to prot. if I'd even be ready to tank a reg instance. Also if the few gems that I have if Im going in the right route? Thanks for you time and suggestions.

You are still crittable by mobs (you need 490 defense, less for normal dungeons).

Run the CoT instances until you can get the glyph and timewardens leggings. I'm guessing you are already there if you have the sword.

Enchant your continuum blade with +40 spelldamage. Enchant your cloak with 12 dodge. Enchant your shield with 18 stam. You can stick those stamina armor patches on items too if you like (heavy knothide +10 stam)

If you want to grind rep for the shatar they have a really nice rep shield for tanking.

Doing the quest chain in Netherstorm will get you a nice tanking trinket. Shattered Halls also has a nice one as well.

Gem for stamina once you get your avoidance (block, parry, dodge) high enough. In most cases you avoiding the gem color bonuses and stacking straight stamina is more beneficial. Dont gem for strength ever. Just dont do it.

As soon as you can save your badges for the libram of repentence. Great piece for adding to early avoidance.

Your better off with the cenarion expedition necklace than what you have. Pally tanks dont have any real need for expertise/hit rating as most of our threat building comes from us being hit unlike warriors and druids.


There's are start. Your on the right track. If you swap your talents for prot talents you could start the higher instances on normal setting with what you have.


Edited because my spelling, grammar and punctuation all fail

Edited, Aug 7th 2008 4:09pm by arthoriuss

Thanks for the reply guys.

Hoy, yes our guild is pretty much geared like me. We all make a great team when were all together. And yes there willing to help with things. I'll definitley look at those dungeons too. Thanks.

Arth
I have both leg pieces. I wan't too sure which one is better at the moment. And Ya I have glyph too. Sadly I think I did that quest already, been awhile since I've done normal quests, lol. Ah okay go for Stam after I get the others up, good to know.

Some of the enchants may take a bit but I'll defintetly look for there stuff.

Sorry didn't see Hoy's post till after this. Ya I think after some runs I'll be able to change some of my healer gear to the tank stuff. I'll still be a healer just having the tank stuff incase we need it. It going to feel wierd to swap places in the dungeon and be in control.

Ugh sorry have 1 more question. In terms of actual tanking. From what I've read I'd pretty much pull by using that one that Shield Spell(forget the name of it). I hear that it hits multiple targets, is there anyway to tell what targets it hits after you use it or just random. Just wondering if I choose to use some CC in a dungeon. Thanks!

Edited, Aug 7th 2008 1:35pm by walsher

Edited, Aug 7th 2008 2:38pm by walsher

Thanks Tsarducci, ya I jsut comfirmed it. Thats really good to know.

There aren't a lot of decent tanking boots before getting one of the Kara ones to drop. In fact I was still using some crappy low-level blue boots when I started tanking Kara and I upgraded them to a pair of GREEN boots that dropped in Kara! Yes, I got made fun of for upgrading inside Kara to some random green boots :P

The only one I can think of (non quest reward at least, who knows if you've done a quest or not :P) is Boots of the Colossus from Heroic Mana Tombs, first boss.

I TAKE THAT BACK! hehe, there's a couple of epic boots that drop in Heroics you might look into: Boots of the Righteous Path and Eaglecrest Warboots. Other than that, pretty much gotta wait for Kara to drop one of its 3 tanking boots.

Edited, Aug 14th 2008 4:21pm by Maulgak

Debatable, but in most cases the SSO shield will come out on top. It doesn't hurt that SSO rep is 10000000 bajillion times easier to get than Sha'tar rep either.



I hold on to tons of stuff. I'll vendor (or d/e on a char with enchanting) something if I get a replacement that is basically a scaled up version of the same thing. For example, I wouldn't keep an Adamantine Figurine or Dab's Enigma after making an Empyrean Tortoise. I do have tons of old stuff (Figurine of the Colossus anyone?) lying around though, esp. trinkets and rings. You never know when you'll need to swap to make a new piece of gear work. This is especially true for Paladins in that our gear is WAY more restrictive once you get into things.



It can help. Through 85% of a Paladin's tanking career (to the end of TBC) you can get by with gemming for pure Stamina if you are diligent and make it a point to get all of the pieces available to you that will help you. If you cut corners, you may need avoidence gems -- there are also a couple of key gearing points at which you'd need to gem for Defense/Avoidence to stay over the top (most of the time). The biggest use for socket bonuses is when you have to use gems for Defense/Dodge. You can greatly reduce the amount of Stamina that you have to drop (possibly by up to 50%) by taking advantage of socket bonuses (esp. +6 Stamina bonuses).



This. And tying back into my last point, the CE necklace (or Maiden's) isn't neccessary if you are diligent and put the time into getting all of the useful gear at your gearing level. They just become obsolete in that the SS Pendant of Resolve gives far more value. But I'd be a bit of a hypocrit if I said "get all of the gear at one gear level" and then said "don't get the CE necklace" as well. Honestly, like with all Paladin gear, it's good to have those choices available (preferably Maiden's necklace) for those times that you MIGHT need to swap it. It's usually more economical to swap rings or trinkets, but you never know. You might need it some day to accept another gear upgrade without putting yourself crit/crushable.



That's an awesome helm. I'd take it over the Tier 4 almost any day of the week. As for boots, yes -- the BS ones are BoP, but very nice. My guide didn't list much for boots because there really isnt very much in the main scope of it (pre-heroic/kara). Boots of Elusion from Kara trash drops would be my main suggestion. The boots from Chess are alright as well (and many people actually rate them higher) but I find that at the "End of Tier 4" level, Paladins are wanting in Dodge and the boots of Elusion help to provide it. Maulgak's heroic suggesions are good too, but the really nice ones start in Kara. Of course, if you find yourself with enough badges before then, there's an argument to be made for both the 2.3 and 2.4 badge boots.

Otherwise...

Have you done the quest that rewards the Nexus-Guard's Pauldrons in Netherstorm? If you had, the (regular) Botanica or Shadow Labs shoulders (Righteous and Bold Dungeon Set 3) would make good shoulders, though you have pretty decent (for the gear level) green ones already.

I'm sure you've already done the Black Morass quest and can't get Andormu's Tear anymore eh? That ring alone is one of the biggest helps Paladins have reaching both uncritable and uncrushable. It makes it very hard for healers switching over to gear up without it unless they are at a level at which they can bypass it easily. The 60 badge ring, Arcatraz ring, even the (regular) Old Hillsbrad ring would help greatly. Rings and trinkets are a HUGE contributor to your Defensive stats and you need all 4. Those alone would put you WELL over the top, to the point that you'd be looking for new gear as upgrades, rather than to get to a base-line level.

the OP needs to get exalted with Aldor asap. you get the shoulder chant PLUS you get the SSO neck proc, which is the real reason you got that piece. also, get the alchemist trink.

I am sorry I cannot get to your armory for some reason but someone mentioned your using the continumm blade and for you to put +40 spell damage on it. I see you have mercenary gear so if you have some honor go get the s2 mace, way more spell damage and put the +40 spell damage on that instead. Most of your threat will come from your weapon. In the meantime the crystalforged blade..sold at AH..is better then continuum for its block value. You can coat those blades with wizard oil which has 5 charges each lasting an hour for like +42 spell damage i believe or close to it. I have the s2 mace now and put +40 spell damage on it, does anyone know if i coat that with wizard oil will it stack or just wasting the oil?

Ya, I recently changed to holy for Kara and arena. But yes I currently have that sword, never thought to look at maces. I'll have to see how much I'd need for it, haven't done alot of BG in awhile. Thanks for the input

Yes, you're capable of running the easier Heroics in that gear. If you were a guildie, I think we'd even consider bringing you to offtank Kara.

Hey me again. Finally reached over 490 defense. Still haven't been able to get a trinket let. A fellow tankadin in my guild gave me alittle advice on a ring and trinket I could get.

He mentioned that theres a trinket from Stormguard pike in Hillsbard. I guess it gives +28 dodge and health regen. Sounds pretty cool. I have yet too see the thing in Wowiki.

The ring he suggested was Delicate Eternium Band. I currently am using a badge ring and the one from the Kara beginning quests.

Im hoping after getting the trinket from SLabs and these items I should be closer getting uncrit and uncrash. After should I start with spell damage and stam.

Ya thats it. I'm exalted just need to do the quests to get its rank to 6.

Lol, thanks. Not too sure why I put band after it. I did end up getting it over the weekend. I think I'm around 93-94 percent now with it.