The Rogue Compendium [updated 10/26/08]Follow

for the 70 Mutilate spec, may I ask why you put in a full 5 point relentless instead of putting 2 points in opportunity (since it helps increase mutilate damage)?

Wait, what's 60% of rogue damage?

Oh, right. White damage. 20% to mutilate damage works out to be much less than 5/5 Relentless in my testing.

IMO, yes, for burst teams. It has the most survivability, best mobility (ShS is weak post-patch) for the kind of damage it has. 0/18/43 is the other spec I'd do (Imp Sprint is almost required after the nerf to ShS), but it lacks damage.

With the move of Relentless Strikes, VARP is a lot more powerful than HARP ever was.

And I take it back, I've been playing VARP swords, and it's pretty nice. That's considering I have 103 DPS swords vs 100 DPS fists.

We're not here to serve you, jack ***. Rate me down all you like, but you're the one being rude. Also, learn to capitalize. kkthxbai

Then find them. We did.

If you're wondering why I'm not replying to you, it's because I can't understand your posts.

Type in English and I'll reply.

Finally a response!!


"There have been threads and posts talking about the WotLK talents, and what spec people are using.

Let me say this straight out after discussion among the rogues and extensive theorycrafting on the beta forums:

Mutilate will be the new raid spec as of right now (9/17/08) if nothing changes in the rogue talents if nothing changes before 11/13/08 (WotLK release).

This is due to Cut to the Chase (CttC) allowing a 5e/5r rotation, keeping up SnD.

# Mutilate
70: 51/5/5
80: 51/13/7

# Combat
70: 5/51/5
80: 15/51/5
NB on combat: right now, fist/dagger (1.4 speed) is seeming to do more damage than sword/sword in beta. For more info check EJ.

# Vulajin's WotLK Spreadsheet

As for Sub, you shouldn't be speccing Sub to level. Combat and Mutilate are far more efficient."

____________________________________
Above was your new Spec for the Mutilate Roque Build, after the new patch.

However I have tried this on several occasions, and since I do not have Fleet Footed or Stealth any longer, I am slow as hell. In PVP, I can barely move. I do not think this is a perfect build, speaking from experience. You previous build, before the new patch was excellent.

However, my question is, since you are now responding, is what points would you replace to put into Fleet Foot or Stealth? Which is needed!! You have also removed Kidney punch which is also odd.

Your thoughts. thx

Adder

Fine fine,

Lets see your 80 pvp build..

Everyone is so angry and cranky around here..

Thx.

Sincerly,
Adder

Ahhhh I suck at creating builds. I just realized that I've got 5/5 in imp. poisons. I hate not having time to focus on this sh*t anymore. Thanks for passivley pointing out my f*ckups.

Hey Theo,

Was wondering how important vile poisons is for a pvp mut build. I thought vile was picked more for the dispel resistance rather than the extra poison damage. Since wound poison doesnt stack anymore how important is the dispel resist now? Just wondering if we can spend those 3 pts in vile somewhere else...not sure where else though :P Anyways, just wondering.

Yeah pretty obvious after you read this article.

http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/10/08/encrypted-text-trunks-of-the-trees-assassination-and-combat/
75 percent of Rogues across the World go in a Subtley. And I dont see that changing even with the new release.

I always knew I liked being an assassination Roque. But I must say, we are a rare breed.
I am always getting comments through out the game. "You Moron, you F*Ked up your talents" But I enjoy
playing with these talents, perhaps I will change them for a different style of play, only time will tell.

Maybe you dont play enough Theo to hear those comments.

No more condescending remarks ok ? You arent getting paid for this information, so relax.
Afterall, its just a game.

Adder