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should the succubus get upgraded fo it can CC betterFollow

#1 Aug 01 2008 at 8:10 PM Rating: Default
I think the succubus should get up graded. The succubis suduction is not god at all compared to sheep or the gouges stun. IT lasts to shot and wil probley kill the succ befor a 2nd seduction can be casted. They should upgrade the succubus suduction so the lock can cc much better
#2 Aug 01 2008 at 10:04 PM Rating: Default
lrn2speelchek.

in all honesty, shes ok. plus the health of the mob doesn't regenerate like it does with sheep when you seduce.
#3 Aug 02 2008 at 6:26 AM Rating: Good
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I CC with Succy all the time, and get told my Seduces are more reliable than some mage's sheeps. L2Seduce properly?

CoE>SearingPain>Focused Seduce macro.
#4 Aug 02 2008 at 1:45 PM Rating: Decent
It'd be nice in pvp if she wasn't so fragile, or if Seduction didn't have a cast time, but it's not the end of the world. It's not as bad as some cc's, which are far more temporary. The biggest thing that no one likes about Seduction is that it's channeled, more than anything, but given that the warlock can still perform other actions while cc'ing with Seduction, it is kind of fair.
#5 Aug 02 2008 at 9:29 PM Rating: Excellent
A few things you can do to make your life a bit easier for CCing with Seduction:

1. Download the FocusFrame addon over at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6463-FocusFrame.html
This will let you visibly see what target has focus as well as the Seduction debuff icon.

2. Make a macro for Seduction. A common one is something like:

#showtooltip
/clearfocus [modifier:alt]
/focus [target=focus,noexists]; [target=focus,dead]
/clearfocus [target=focus,help]
/petstay
/petfollow
/cast [pet:succubus,target=focus,exists,harm] Seduction; Seduction

When you click the macro on a target, the target gets focussed and seduced. You can then target something else and DPS away and just click the macro as needed to re-seduce the Focussed mob. Clicking the macro while holding ALT will let you switch Focus to a different target before your old one is dead if you need to. You can find alot of useful warlock macros over at http://www.wowwiki.com/Useful_macros_for_warlocks


As for as the spell being channelled... In the WotLK Beta, the Improved Succubus 3/3 talent gives the Succubus a 100% chance to avoid interruption.
#6 Aug 03 2008 at 2:03 PM Rating: Decent
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As for as the spell being channelled... In the WotLK Beta, the Improved Succubus 3/3 talent gives the Succubus a 100% chance to avoid interruption.


That is still only interruption based on damage. The succubus is still susceptible to Kick, Earth Shock, Pummel, Shield Bash, Silence, Spell Lock, Counterspell, etc, in addition to almost any manner of cc. Besides that, no one takes Imp. Succy unless they solely run 5-mans or heroics. As well as all that, since our pets don't scale with spell hit, the succubus still has a high chance to resist when casting the spell (CoElements may or may not reduce the resists and heartbeat checks).
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