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#27 Aug 11 2008 at 12:58 PM Rating: Decent
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No, it's just going to require that his group have more of an attention span and desire to kill the boss than a badge farming run. I'll be the first to admit that I treat Kara like a joke nowadays because of the gear I have access to, as well as others. I CAN'T shield block in Kara anymore or I don't get rage, and I find myself DW tanking the first half of the place...yes, bosses included. My attention span for the place is very short because I've seen it so many damn times. Kara is easy, and I don't want it to be hard. I got to run it when it was hard, I don't want to do it again. The existence of new gear doesn't mean that he HAS to have that gear to complete said content, however. It was done before. That's like saying that since you have a car, you're physically incapable of walking someplace. Is it easier to drive? Yeah. If you really need to get someplace and can't drive though, you sure as hell can still walk and get the job done. It's completely possible for him to MT Kara in the gear that he has, even in a raid full of people with that same level of gear. It just requires that guild to actually be after something more than badges, and the fastest route through the instance. He needs a group of people trying to beat the content for the sake of beating the content.

Which is what leads me to saying you gave very good advice on his choice of guild. You're probably in the wrong place for the character man. Patzer is correct, and you might want to find a guild that's still working through T4 content. It's not so much that you can't tank Kara in what you're wearing, but that you will not be tanking Kara in the gear you're wearing where you're currently located. It just won't happen. I can tell you how often, on a badge farming run, my guild is going to bring in somebody geared like you as opposed to having me come in and tank it for an EZ mode clear. The answer is never. You're going to have to either PUG out some runs, or find another guild probably.


Edited, Aug 11th 2008 5:03pm by FletusSanguine
#28 Aug 12 2008 at 5:42 AM Rating: Good
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Fletus -- are you telling me that you walked into Kara in all blues, and did a full clear of the place and ended that run in all blues?

Really?

I believe that you started the thing in blues in greens. Heck, everyone did when it was released. But I don't know of anyone who one-shot'ed the place. If you did, you're the first I've met, and I kind of doubt you are the norm.

Everyone I know of who started Kara in blues took several runs before they finished the thing, and when they did they were significantly better geared than when they started. In my case when we finally did a full clear, I'd gotten at least 1 of the t4 pieces, the vambraces of courage, and the mantle of abramis. Plus our ring had been upgraded more than once since getting the Nightbane Urn doesn't happen till a bit late in the progression. Now granted, we'd call it a day after 5 or 6 wipes because we didn't have unlimited supplies of gold back then, and the dailies weren't out there to instantly refill the guild coffers (and we really didn't have the right balance of professions at the time either ... does any guild really need 20 miners but only 1 alchemist?)
#29 Aug 12 2008 at 12:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Not all blues, but mostly. I had the rep shield from Sha'tar rep and I really don't recall much else. At the time, Karazhan epics hadn't been upgraded yet and were actually significantly worse than most of the blues I had. It was back before they went through and readjusted all of the items from T4 content. I had about 15.6k fully raid buffed when we killed Prince. I remember how cool I thought it was that I broke 20k when I popped a seed and last stand during P2 to give healers breathing room during a phase that was pretty harsh at the time.

And no, the place wasn't one shot. We wiped, and worked through why we wiped. We didn't let gear be the deciding factor in whether or not we killed something however, because it really rarely is in this game prior to Sunwell. The gear curve is just not as drastic as it was pre-BC, or in BC before that point. There are very few real gear checks that exist in this game anymore, like Patchwerk. There are a HUGE amount of 'Don't stand in the fire' checks, however. That's what almost every encounter in BC has been. Either a recreation of a previous raid mob, or a check to see if your raid is intelligent enough to move out of the way of the giant orbs flying through the room at you, except sometimes those are in the form of a blizzard or a consecration.



Edited, Aug 12th 2008 4:41pm by FletusSanguine
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