For those of you who PvP I have a couple of questions?
Getting resilence gear is in progress, but what should I gem it with?
What do I enchant it with after that?
and last of all but not least, how do you kite rogues that are undead and REFUSE to run in fear ?????
My buddy is shadowstep and I couldn't get away from him to save my life. He told me to kite him, but gah, I had poisons up and was moving pretty slow.
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With good PVP gear, you're HP should be high enough to withstand a good beating, but more Resilience will continue to help cut down on ridiculous burst damage that is the bane of Warlocks. With few viable ohshi buttons, burst classes can generally take us out quick if they get those lucky criticals in, so for your gems, boosting Resilience is the way to go.
I do suggest that you fill in the correct color, though, as the extra bonuses from using the correct gems is usually a nice extra boost. What you cannot fill with Resilience, go in with any HP you can find, and spell damage wont hurt.
As for kiting Rogues, it's a difficult situation. If you're outgeared, dont have enough resilience, or make a bad move you can consider yourself out. This doesn't mean you should just stand there and let them beat you to death, because there is much to do in the mean time. As with any bad situation, your best bet is to try to do as much as you can before your unable to do anything else.
Simply running around, switching directions and strafing makes life harder for a rogue. CoS can get them out of a lot of bad situations, but most of the time they wait to use it until their feared. Having them blow this at an opportune time is crucial. My advice is that once they've blown their cover and attempted to quickslay you, blow your abilities/trinkets to establish any distance you can, and throw on an Amplified Exhaustion. Saving fears is good, if you can, because the diminishing returns means after you blow a few (3 or so) and they get out of em, the spell is worthless for a good amount of time.
In the mean time, also, while you're kiting this rogue, be throwing on snares, DoTs, and anything else you can to any other enemies in the area. In arenas, Warlocks are great at seperating up teams. If/when you get a nightfall use it, and keep your Felpuppy on the healer or most dangerous caster.
In essense, when dealing with a rogue... sometimes theres not much you can do to the Rogue himself... but that doesn't mean there's nothing to be done =)
I do suggest that you fill in the correct color, though, as the extra bonuses from using the correct gems is usually a nice extra boost. What you cannot fill with Resilience, go in with any HP you can find, and spell damage wont hurt.
As for kiting Rogues, it's a difficult situation. If you're outgeared, dont have enough resilience, or make a bad move you can consider yourself out. This doesn't mean you should just stand there and let them beat you to death, because there is much to do in the mean time. As with any bad situation, your best bet is to try to do as much as you can before your unable to do anything else.
Simply running around, switching directions and strafing makes life harder for a rogue. CoS can get them out of a lot of bad situations, but most of the time they wait to use it until their feared. Having them blow this at an opportune time is crucial. My advice is that once they've blown their cover and attempted to quickslay you, blow your abilities/trinkets to establish any distance you can, and throw on an Amplified Exhaustion. Saving fears is good, if you can, because the diminishing returns means after you blow a few (3 or so) and they get out of em, the spell is worthless for a good amount of time.
In the mean time, also, while you're kiting this rogue, be throwing on snares, DoTs, and anything else you can to any other enemies in the area. In arenas, Warlocks are great at seperating up teams. If/when you get a nightfall use it, and keep your Felpuppy on the healer or most dangerous caster.
In essense, when dealing with a rogue... sometimes theres not much you can do to the Rogue himself... but that doesn't mean there's nothing to be done =)
Just a little tiny add from a ShS rogue.
We can't use CloS while feared. You're right that we usually wait 'till we're in a bad time though. I myself try to waste it until the lock dies, else you'll kill the lock but get stuck with 300 DOTs that will kill you anyway. Specially in the arenas.
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CoS can get them out of a lot of bad situations, but most of the time they wait to use it until their feared.
We can't use CloS while feared. You're right that we usually wait 'till we're in a bad time though. I myself try to waste it until the lock dies, else you'll kill the lock but get stuck with 300 DOTs that will kill you anyway. Specially in the arenas.
Yea, rogues and warriors are the classes I hate to fight the most. I lose 90% of the time. Usually I'm out questing / dailies / or farming in my PVE gear, and get owned. BGs not so bad, arena I'm usually focus fired and go down right away.
My spec flips back and forth, cause I hate farming as SL/SL. I like my felguard. He's so cool looking and he hits pretty hard.
I might just start wearing my PvP gear full time then except for raids. And as DM spec'd I don't have CoEx, but maybe i'll go back to affliction to farm.
and I'll get resilence gems then.
Is there a hit cap I need to meet for PvP?
My spec flips back and forth, cause I hate farming as SL/SL. I like my felguard. He's so cool looking and he hits pretty hard.
I might just start wearing my PvP gear full time then except for raids. And as DM spec'd I don't have CoEx, but maybe i'll go back to affliction to farm.
and I'll get resilence gems then.
Is there a hit cap I need to meet for PvP?
The only really viable comp for a warlock in arena now is Warlock/Druid. I'll admit the Druid will do 75% of the work. Warlocks are already falling in 3s and they are nearing hunter status in 5s.
It's almost required you're some form of sl/sl for arena. Soul Link, Master Demo, and the .5 Second summon are basically required especially when you run up against double melee or any team with a warrior or a rogue.
Work up to the resilience cap (around 492 or something) remember that the demo talent demonic resilience will give you extra protection beyond the cap. While you might be tempted to get more resilience it's important to also try to reach a 13Kish HP mark and work on your spell damage. You want your drains and dots to be effective. You'll probably start off socketing for resilience, but as your gear gets better and you get things like rings, the trinket, etc you'll replace them for dmg/stam gems.
As for rogues
If a Rogue attacks you while you're farming and you're in pve gear, you really can't do too much. They have too much utility. If you're felguard you can try to get some room and then have an intercept and chain a fear, at this time it's a good time to just run away.
However, in a more "fair" enviorment like arena where you'll be sl/sl. Consider blowing your quick summon for Void Walker. It helps a lot versus rogues. Use CoEx but don't count on it.
Try to save your Deathcoil until after he uses clos, be sure to kill him within that minute, or it's basically over for you. I know Druid/Lock is about outlasting, but that's not going to happen if you're going against a team with a rogue or a warrior. Deadly Throw/Sprint/Cripling will ruin your day. If the rogue has war glaive quality weapons, basically consider yourself out. I have pretty good pvp gear, but I can't counter that.
It's almost required you're some form of sl/sl for arena. Soul Link, Master Demo, and the .5 Second summon are basically required especially when you run up against double melee or any team with a warrior or a rogue.
Work up to the resilience cap (around 492 or something) remember that the demo talent demonic resilience will give you extra protection beyond the cap. While you might be tempted to get more resilience it's important to also try to reach a 13Kish HP mark and work on your spell damage. You want your drains and dots to be effective. You'll probably start off socketing for resilience, but as your gear gets better and you get things like rings, the trinket, etc you'll replace them for dmg/stam gems.
As for rogues
If a Rogue attacks you while you're farming and you're in pve gear, you really can't do too much. They have too much utility. If you're felguard you can try to get some room and then have an intercept and chain a fear, at this time it's a good time to just run away.
However, in a more "fair" enviorment like arena where you'll be sl/sl. Consider blowing your quick summon for Void Walker. It helps a lot versus rogues. Use CoEx but don't count on it.
Try to save your Deathcoil until after he uses clos, be sure to kill him within that minute, or it's basically over for you. I know Druid/Lock is about outlasting, but that's not going to happen if you're going against a team with a rogue or a warrior. Deadly Throw/Sprint/Cripling will ruin your day. If the rogue has war glaive quality weapons, basically consider yourself out. I have pretty good pvp gear, but I can't counter that.
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As for rogues
If a Rogue attacks you while you're farming and you're in pve gear, you really can't do too much. They have too much utility. If you're felguard you can try to get some room and then have an intercept and chain a fear, at this time it's a good time to just run away.
If a Rogue attacks you while you're farming and you're in pve gear, you really can't do too much. They have too much utility. If you're felguard you can try to get some room and then have an intercept and chain a fear, at this time it's a good time to just run away.
I'll testify to that...Was out farming elementals around Halaa and 2 70 rogues nailed me like a cheap hooker. I had time to turn around and look then I was dead. I don't PvP so was totally unprepared for the encounter and didn't realize I was so close and flagged.
LOL, I feel like a cheap hooker all the time from rogues. This weekend I snapped and just started killin em where I found em.
But thankfully, I'm back to normal.
But thankfully, I'm back to normal.
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