I was in Duskwood this morning attempting to take down my arch rival, Mor'Ladim, solo (I'm level 30). In the middle of the fight I gouged him so I could bandage and continue. Even though I have Improved Gouge, Mor'Ladim started hitting me again after about two seconds. It surprised me because my opening CS incapacitated him for the right amount of time. Are some non-instance mobs, like elites, about to escape its immobilizing effects? Unfortunately I don't have much experience with Gouge as you don't really use it for leveling.
BTW, I almost took him down. But I guess almost doesn't count for much...
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Yes, sometimes. I've found times that some elites don't even react to the incapacitation (or even blind).
Were you using Deadly Poison? It breaks the Gouge effect when it ticks.
zhaharik wrote:
Were you using Deadly Poison? It breaks the Gouge effect when it ticks.
I had Instant Poison on my main weapon and Crippling Poison on my off-hand. But thanks for the heads-up on Deadly Poison.
Was this the first time you had used Gouge in the fight? If not, you were probably a victim of diminishing returns.
That or maybe you had a garote/rupture on him?
Eliff wrote:
That or maybe you had a garote/rupture on him?
You are right, I used rupture. Thanks. I had forgotten because most of the time my sequence is CS, SS,...,SS, eviscerate and they are dead. With Mor'Ladim I decide to throw rupture in there because I knew I would be building more points with subsequent SS.
I need to have another go at him anyway so I'll rethink my approach. Given that I will likely need to gouge/bandage in the middle (I like to save my healing pots for a last resort recovery), I'll need to avoid any DoT before the gouge. Is there any merit to using Slice and Dice or Expose Armor on him in the middle of the fight, or should I just stick to SS followed by eviscerate? I use a sword/dagger combo so I cannot backstab.
Slice and Dice should pretty much always be a part of your rotation (by the time you run into exceptions, you'll know what they are). An extra 30% (20%? at your level) white damage is definitely nothing to scoff at. Expose Armor may or may not be useful on him; I couldn't say.
bismarckmajivo wrote:
Slice and Dice should pretty much always be a part of your rotation (by the time you run into exceptions, you'll know what they are). An extra 30% (20%? at your level) white damage is definitely nothing to scoff at. Expose Armor may or may not be useful on him; I couldn't say.
I'm surprised by this but maybe it's because most of the mobs I've encountered so far are at or below my level. Generally I open with CS, followed by enough SS to get full points, then hit eviscerate. Most of the time the mob is either dead or very near death. Even if I pull the mob that sequence gets them to low health.
Hm. I guess kills are faster at low levels than I remember. In any case, once things get more health (or you're fighting an elite, like Mor'ladim), you'll want to use Slice and Dice and Eviscerate both, to your best judgment. And yeah, Rupture will ***** up your gouge pretty bad. Mor'ladim is pretty tough all around; it took me a few tries to get him even with my paladin, and they're designed for more longevity than rogues really are. Not to say that it can't be done, by a long shot, but you have to be on your toes.
Edited, Jul 23rd 2008 9:51am by bismarckmajivo
Edited, Jul 23rd 2008 9:51am by bismarckmajivo
bismarckmajivo wrote:
Hm. I guess kills are faster at low levels than I remember. In any case, once things get more health (or you're fighting an elite, like Mor'ladim), you'll want to use Slice and Dice and Eviscerate both, to your best judgment. And yeah, Rupture will ***** up your gouge pretty bad. Mor'ladim is pretty tough all around; it took me a few tries to get him even with my paladin, and they're designed for more longevity than rogues really are. Not to say that it can't be done, by a long shot, but you have to be on your toes.
Edited, Jul 23rd 2008 9:51am by bismarckmajivo
Edited, Jul 23rd 2008 9:51am by bismarckmajivo
Depending on gear level stuff at higher levels is the same. Leveling on beta I open with CS, hit SS twice and hit KS and the mob is dead by the end of KS.
Overlord Theophany wrote:
bismarckmajivo wrote:
Hm. I guess kills are faster at low levels than I remember. In any case, once things get more health (or you're fighting an elite, like Mor'ladim), you'll want to use Slice and Dice and Eviscerate both, to your best judgment. And yeah, Rupture will ***** up your gouge pretty bad. Mor'ladim is pretty tough all around; it took me a few tries to get him even with my paladin, and they're designed for more longevity than rogues really are. Not to say that it can't be done, by a long shot, but you have to be on your toes.
Edited, Jul 23rd 2008 9:51am by bismarckmajivo
Edited, Jul 23rd 2008 9:51am by bismarckmajivo
Depending on gear level stuff at higher levels is the same. Leveling on beta I open with CS, hit SS twice and hit KS and the mob is dead by the end of KS.
Well yeah, but most of us at 70 aren't putting out 4-digit DPS.
I'm not, at least. Maybe some of the others around here are..
bismarckmajivo wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
bismarckmajivo wrote:
Hm. I guess kills are faster at low levels than I remember. In any case, once things get more health (or you're fighting an elite, like Mor'ladim), you'll want to use Slice and Dice and Eviscerate both, to your best judgment. And yeah, Rupture will ***** up your gouge pretty bad. Mor'ladim is pretty tough all around; it took me a few tries to get him even with my paladin, and they're designed for more longevity than rogues really are. Not to say that it can't be done, by a long shot, but you have to be on your toes.
Edited, Jul 23rd 2008 9:51am by bismarckmajivo
Edited, Jul 23rd 2008 9:51am by bismarckmajivo
Depending on gear level stuff at higher levels is the same. Leveling on beta I open with CS, hit SS twice and hit KS and the mob is dead by the end of KS.
Well yeah, but most of us at 70 aren't putting out 4-digit DPS.
I'm not, at least. Maybe some of the others around here are..
Uh, If you can't put out 4 digit DPS with the badge and PvP gear in the game at this point, I think it's time to call it quits on your rogue.
bismarckmajivo wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
bismarckmajivo wrote:
Hm. I guess kills are faster at low levels than I remember. In any case, once things get more health (or you're fighting an elite, like Mor'ladim), you'll want to use Slice and Dice and Eviscerate both, to your best judgment. And yeah, Rupture will ***** up your gouge pretty bad. Mor'ladim is pretty tough all around; it took me a few tries to get him even with my paladin, and they're designed for more longevity than rogues really are. Not to say that it can't be done, by a long shot, but you have to be on your toes.
Edited, Jul 23rd 2008 9:51am by bismarckmajivo
Edited, Jul 23rd 2008 9:51am by bismarckmajivo
Depending on gear level stuff at higher levels is the same. Leveling on beta I open with CS, hit SS twice and hit KS and the mob is dead by the end of KS.
Well yeah, but most of us at 70 aren't putting out 4-digit DPS.
I'm not, at least. Maybe some of the others around here are..
Well last night while doing my dailies on the isle, recount said i did 487.6 dps - that's four figures right?? :)
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Uh, If you can't put out 4 digit DPS with the badge and PvP gear in the game at this point, I think it's time to call it quits on your rogue. 
Okay, to rephrase: Not all of us are on servers with people competent enough to successfully complete heroics.
Point was some people will find SnD useful and others won't, and hopefully by the time you join that latter category you already know it.
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