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Thanks for the link :)

I have to say though, I don't like it ...

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Vindication or Divine Purpose? The -15% all stats really worth? Divine Purpose stack with Persuit of Justice?

Maybe it'll just take some getting used to, but I'm in agreement with some of the posters on that thread: it seems overly complicated. Again, might just have to see it in action in order to fully grasp 'how wonderful' it is, but reading over it, I prefer the current system. I'll reserve further judgment (no pun intended) on the matter until I get to try it for myself.

I read it through, and I actually really like it. I think it really simplifies Judgments (if I'm reading it correctly).

For example - you are a tank hitting away with SoR. The mob is getting on low health and about to run away. Instead of having to SoJ -> JoJ -> SoR. Now, you just JoJ. Your Seal stays up, and the mob is stuck to you.

Or, if you usually open up a fight with SoR -> JoR -> SoR to get seal back up after judgment. Now, you just SoR -> JOR, and keep hitting away. Your seal stays on you (i.e. the Judgment does not consume the seal).

Hopefully I'm understanding it correctly...

With the addition of Enlightened Judgements, Judgement of Light and Judgement of Wisdom, judging will be mandatory for holy paladins in WotLK. A debuff that has a 50% chance to restore 350 hit points or 175 mana on every attack made by the entire raid must be kept up.

Since the boss will always be judged, the heart of the crusader talent looks real good with its raidwide 3% boost to crit. Benediction will be worthless since judgements will no longer consume the seals and judgement of wisdom already automatically returns mana to the paladin. Improved might now give a 50% boost to the spell's attack power bonus making the loss of kings less painful.

Paladins will be even more of a crit reliant class in WotLK so it is tough to ignore the 5% boost provided by Conviction.

Holy shock will be cast every 6 seconds in raids now. It is more mana efficient than flash of light (650 mana for 1431 to 1549 healing vs. 420 mana for 785 to 879 healing) and the crits will proc instant holy lights.

Sheath of light is designed to be awesome for ret paladins and it is, except that it is still awesome for holy paladins. Over 150 spell power and a 60% hot on crits? Yes please, especially considering that talents alone provide a 19% bonus to crit.

I know the Hot crits will overwrite themselves on your main tank and will be less spectacular because of overheals, but sheath is really going to shine where we need it most, group healing. You are going to be able to fire an instant holy shock or holy light at a DPS and watch it crit a large percentage of the time to completely take care of their healing needs.

Holy/prot still looks strong with the amazing divine guardian and kings and if beacon of light gets a huge healing coefficient or outright buff to make sheath less appealing then I could see going back to holy prot. With a large chunk of our raid casting going to instant casts, I don't see the appeal of putting 5 points in Judgements of the Pure.

I got the spell information from the Wowhead.com Wrath of the Lich King website.


http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=48825

and


http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=48785

Edited, Jul 23rd 2008 4:36pm by thailfi

Don't take too much of that into account! The spells still have the same mana/healing as the alpha. A lot of stuff has changed and those values are likely to be adjusted in the next build.

Ive heard this as well. Although, I think its a bug. The reason why is that its an AP to spell power conversion. There is no reason for it to not work on healing spells. It might be a bug with the whole system.

Am I understanding correctly that spell power is taking the place of both spell damage and +healing? ie: those 2 stats are now being rolled into one stat? If that's the case I can't see how this wouldn't be a bug.

I don't know if you guys have seen this but I thought you might like to. Guarded By The Light seems pretty awesome there (30% cheaper consecrations? Yes, please.)