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#1 Jul 16 2008 at 12:11 AM Rating: Default
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PvP in this game just seems completely broken to me, at least at lv49. can anyone tell me why Rouges need multiple stunning attacks. A Rouge usually kills me before i can even move. Also why every meele and mage class can kill me in a matter of seconds, when i have the highest armor class. I see meele hitting me for 150-250dmg a hit. It just seems like bull when one guy can kill me faster than i can heal myself with a holy spec
#2 Jul 16 2008 at 3:59 AM Rating: Decent
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first of all i don't think WoW is balanced around lvl 49 pvp... secondly if you're holy, your best bet at 49 is still to stay in a group and heal. thirdly, these people with amazing damage.. have you looked at if they're normal leveling geared or twinked? twinks can do rediculous damage usually. fourthly, rogues are designed to take out casters (i.e. holy spec paladins...) hence the stuns/interupts. Fifthly, rogues don't have a pally bubble... or 2... sixthly, rogues are prolly killing you cause you're letting them sneak up on you, sap you, and when they feel like it ambush you or whatever attack they use... seventhly, and finally, please don't cry about how everyone and everything is better. holy paladins are good at keeping people alive, not necessarily making people dead.... if you're trying to solo kill things in pvp get a ret set together and go that route. at 49 ret pallies geared right are suposedly still pretty powerful. i didn't pvp the 49 bracket on my ret cause i was looking forward to the outlands too much, but in instances compared to the others at the same point in leveling my damage was pretty good. otherwise i recommend staying in groups (with people you know if possible) and let them do the killing for you while you keep them alive.
#3 Jul 16 2008 at 7:39 AM Rating: Decent
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I agree with tool, as holy spec you are considered a "caster in plate" rogues will eat casters for breakfast lunch and dinner. As for caster classes I have no idea what you are talking about, I pvpd a bit at 49 as a decently geared prot pally, casters can deal good damage but if you know what you are doing (LOS, timing your stuns etc) they are quite easy to kill.

The only class I find that is really hard to kill as a pally is a lock because unlike warriors or rogue we have no way to get close to them to beat on them (stealth, intercept etc). Also are you using a 2h or a shield? At my current lvl (52) my shield is around 1/3 of my armor.

If you are a human pally perception (racial spell) is a god send, catch those rogues before they catch you.

Also if you were to fight a rogue and say you resist a stun or bubble out, you will beat them to death very quickly, that is why they have a lot of stuns.

As a holy pally you are a caster, join a group in your raid and heal that is your JOB as a holy pally.

#4 Jul 16 2008 at 1:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Not if you are Athene, best paladin in the world.
#5 Jul 16 2008 at 2:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Correct me if i am wrong, but armor doesn't protect you from magic, just physical damage.

#6 Jul 16 2008 at 2:22 PM Rating: Good
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Planetman wrote:
Correct me if i am wrong, but armor doesn't protect you from magic, just physical damage.



this is correct.
#7 Jul 16 2008 at 2:28 PM Rating: Good
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blizzard doesnt care about <70 PvP. 99.99% of their focus is on Arena with the other .01% being on level 70 BGs.
#8 Jul 16 2008 at 8:01 PM Rating: Good
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It just seems like bull when one guy can kill me faster than i can heal myself with a holy spec


It would seem even stupider if you could just heal through their damage. Imagine you're a rogue, fighting another rogue, when a paladin shows up and starts healing the other rogue. You obviously start losing, because the other rogue is getting heals. So you switch to the pally, only now he starts healing himself, and is basically invulnerable, and you're left thwacking away uselessly at this unkillable thing while the other rogue shoves a dagger up your butt.

No, it seems perfectly functional as it is. Rogues have all of two (2) actual stuns. One can only be used from stealth and the other needs a fair number of combo points to really be effective, and it's on a 20sec cooldown.

Now stop *********
#9 Jul 17 2008 at 11:28 AM Rating: Decent
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IMO - unless you plan on twinking, there is no reason to PVP at any lvl other than 70. You can pick up a few pieces of gear and yes - it's fun, but the gear isn't insanely better than that which you can get through quests or instances and I've never found pre-70 PVP to be fun...

Both 19 and 29 brackets are filled with twinks. The 39 bracket was ok, but Lock's still destroy Paly with DOT/Fear. 49 is the first place we get to wipe their curses....

By 49 I'm looking for a few more lvls to get to outland. 59, I'm IN outland. 69, well why? ahhhh 70.
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