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#1 Jul 15 2008 at 9:25 PM Rating: Decent
Whats a good defense rating for a 70 Druid? Wahts the best way to get tank gear? Where? And what about health?
#2 Jul 15 2008 at 9:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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This is a forum that loves helping those that strive to help themselves at least a little bit. Consider this a free pass, but please read the sticky called "READ THIS FIRST" at the top of the forum. It'll answer a boatload of questions like these.

wesche wrote:
Whats a good defense rating for a 70 Druid?

You need 415 defense rating to be critproof against level 73 mobs/bosses if you have maxed Survival of the Fittest talent (which you should) and 0 resilience. Resilience contributes toward crit-proofness, so if you have some you can get away with less than 415 defense. To determine whether you have reached the crit cap through Defense and Resilience, copy and pasted the following text into chat:
/script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(2.6-(GetCombatRatingBonus(CR_DEFENSE_SKILL)*.04+GetCombatRatingBonus(CR_CRIT_TAKEN_MELEE)),1,0.5,0)

wesche wrote:
Wahts the best way to get tank gear? Where?

Easy peasy...gearing a bear tank for entry-level heroics/kara is straightforward, as you can fill (virtually?) every slot with quest rewards, craftables and BoEs you can get on the AH, and PvP shoulders. The cornerstone is all three pieces of the Heavy Clefthoof set and Braxxis Staff of Slumber. Beyond that, you'll need to read a beary famous post called "How to gear your Bear before raiding" at a site called Emmerald. Bookmark that site now, because it also contains a gear ranking list that is ideal for building your own personal "to do list" once you've gotten the gear recommended in that post.

wesche wrote:
And what about health?

Health is good to have, because without it you are dead. A good goal is to get to 14,000 health (that's self-buffed with MotW, no consumables or other buffs) and then you can start start gearing/gemming for agility.

Edited, Jul 15th 2008 10:46pm by JeeBar
#3 Jul 18 2008 at 1:01 PM Rating: Good
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Good info, but I was under the impression that you always gem for stam and enchant for agi, never gem for agi.
#4 Jul 18 2008 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
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I'm no feral druid by any means, balance and resto are my forte. But from what I've heard isn't resilience kind of pointless in pve?

And don't you need like 490 defense to be crit proof and uncrushable?

This is what I've gathered from all the tank talk I hear over vent.
#5 Jul 18 2008 at 3:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Edited, Aug 26th 2008 10:12pm by kawainui
#6 Jul 18 2008 at 3:48 PM Rating: Decent
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And don't you need like 490 defense to be crit proof and uncrushable?


that is pally and warriors. they need 490 deff for uncritable. and for uncrushable they need 102.4% avoidance. that is 5%base miss on mob dodge parry block and the miss when you mouse over deff. that 102.4 is when shield block or holy shield is up.

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Defense has more bang for the buck than resilience but resilience is cheaper


i thought resil gave more point for point deff just gave some to dodge so was considered better. not sure on that though.

also S2 helm with SSO head enchant is a nice 2+% to decreaseing crits and you only need. 2.6 so not a bad investment. can get the helm in one day of farming av's. cleft set will make up the rest for uncritable.

#7 Jul 18 2008 at 4:32 PM Rating: Good
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Just looking at avoidance, 24 defense (3 +8 gems) is more dodge dodge+miss than 16 Resil (2 +8 gems) and 8 Agi, and has the same amount of crit reduction. I did the math at one point, if you're interested, I can post it again when I'm not tired from working all day.

Edited, Jul 19th 2008 6:16am by AstarintheDruid
#8REDACTED, Posted: Jul 18 2008 at 4:43 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) /facepalm stickies are there to answer this.. -_-
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