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My warrior currently is 45 and i loved leveling it and honestly did not take that long to get there, but lately ive noticed my leveling has seem to gotten a lot slower. I havent been doing ne thing different, was wondering if ne one else hass gotten into a slump around this level
The 40's suck. That's been my experience on all my toons.
Suck it up and get through it. You're almost to outland.
Suck it up and get through it. You're almost to outland.
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yea, warriors also a little harder i guess, not having a demon like with my warlock, just used to tearing through mobs i guess
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Yes your noticing this was correct. At that level I created 2 alts due to the low leveling of my warr
Since you got a problem leveling (As I did) do the following :
a. Check your Gear!
i.Warriors need to stay updated more than all other classes. A warlock,with poor gear, can allways command its pet do his task ,throw a couple of dots and just sit there , light a cigar , get a cold beer etc...
If two mobs approach then... he must ... extinguish the cigar and just stick to the beer... (heheh).
The most probable outcome is that the 1 or 2 mobs will eventually drop dead.
Now the non-updated warrior if he does not do the right moves ,change stances, bla bla , the mobs are so close to him...so
difficult...
Get decent weapons if not able to buy/construct a full armour set. Rogues with ZERO cash gain stealth so their protection
costs nothing!Warlocks fear ability(protection spell) also costs nothing. Warriors protection Costs tons of money!!
ii.Upgrade your soloing:Try to get Offensive abilities when obtaining items... Its not that bad if you exchange your stamina
items with more strength and agility. (Yes , you will suck as a warrior-tank but you will xp easier).
Try to improve your Criticals!!
Remove items with intellect , resistances...
Try to find items that exactly match your level-if possible.
Do this every 2-3 levels
b. What spec are you?
Protection spec is not that great choise, if you have chosen it, for fast leveling... Unless you are in an active guild
and you get invited FAST in groups...
Go Arms or Fury..
Make the most out of the 2 handed weapon or the 2 weapons you use in combination with your spec.
Change your Spec/ Re learn new abilities wich were neglected in the past , see/explore all abilities in your tree with
your own eyes and not just by reading whatever one tells you in forums...
c.Change the places you soloing!!!!
Not all mobs ,at same level, have same difficulty..Try to find mobs that are designed to the measures of the warrior.
Its not a shame to hunt for green mobs...?(Although they dont give much xp). Mobs that I like are the ones that have dinstance between them so they dont come altogeather when thunderclap or Shout is casted but after one is down you can charge on the other... I also prefer mobs that stick on you when you they are close to death and dont try to run. Pick
mobs that you know that will give both xp and money to improve your gear...
d. Get Addons!!!
Its hopless without this addon...
Since you got a problem leveling (As I did) do the following :
a. Check your Gear!
i.Warriors need to stay updated more than all other classes. A warlock,with poor gear, can allways command its pet do his task ,throw a couple of dots and just sit there , light a cigar , get a cold beer etc...
If two mobs approach then... he must ... extinguish the cigar and just stick to the beer... (heheh).
The most probable outcome is that the 1 or 2 mobs will eventually drop dead.
Now the non-updated warrior if he does not do the right moves ,change stances, bla bla , the mobs are so close to him...so
difficult...
Get decent weapons if not able to buy/construct a full armour set. Rogues with ZERO cash gain stealth so their protection
costs nothing!Warlocks fear ability(protection spell) also costs nothing. Warriors protection Costs tons of money!!
ii.Upgrade your soloing:Try to get Offensive abilities when obtaining items... Its not that bad if you exchange your stamina
items with more strength and agility. (Yes , you will suck as a warrior-tank but you will xp easier).
Try to improve your Criticals!!
Remove items with intellect , resistances...
Try to find items that exactly match your level-if possible.
Do this every 2-3 levels
b. What spec are you?
Protection spec is not that great choise, if you have chosen it, for fast leveling... Unless you are in an active guild
and you get invited FAST in groups...
Go Arms or Fury..
Make the most out of the 2 handed weapon or the 2 weapons you use in combination with your spec.
Change your Spec/ Re learn new abilities wich were neglected in the past , see/explore all abilities in your tree with
your own eyes and not just by reading whatever one tells you in forums...
c.Change the places you soloing!!!!
Not all mobs ,at same level, have same difficulty..Try to find mobs that are designed to the measures of the warrior.
Its not a shame to hunt for green mobs...?(Although they dont give much xp). Mobs that I like are the ones that have dinstance between them so they dont come altogeather when thunderclap or Shout is casted but after one is down you can charge on the other... I also prefer mobs that stick on you when you they are close to death and dont try to run. Pick
mobs that you know that will give both xp and money to improve your gear...
d. Get Addons!!!
Its hopless without this addon...
If that is your warrior in your sig with the exact gear you use to level, you will be needing some new gear.
Focus on gear with str, hit, crit, ap. (not necessarily in that order)
Agi increases your crit so do not avoid this stat. Just don't go out your way to get it over another equivalent stat.
You should go to the AH and buy some new rings with a focus on str.
That chest has to go, its way underleveled and it doesn't have a single dmg stat on it.
A rule that I follow is that, if a gear is green and is over 5 levels under your current, start looking for an upgrade.
Blue gear can be kept longer but will eventually be replaced as well.
You have way more stam than str, it should at least be even, but generally more str than stam.
As for your talent spec, it looks generally fine.
I would take the points from Improved Berserker Stance and Imp. Whirldwind into Precision.
For me, it doesn't seem worth it to level in Berserker Stance just for the 3% crit.
Until you can max out Imp. Berserker Stance, I wouldn't even consider leveling in berserker, even then I am still skeptical.
Basically, upgrade your gear a bit and just hang in there.
Focus on gear with str, hit, crit, ap. (not necessarily in that order)
Agi increases your crit so do not avoid this stat. Just don't go out your way to get it over another equivalent stat.
You should go to the AH and buy some new rings with a focus on str.
That chest has to go, its way underleveled and it doesn't have a single dmg stat on it.
A rule that I follow is that, if a gear is green and is over 5 levels under your current, start looking for an upgrade.
Blue gear can be kept longer but will eventually be replaced as well.
You have way more stam than str, it should at least be even, but generally more str than stam.
As for your talent spec, it looks generally fine.
I would take the points from Improved Berserker Stance and Imp. Whirldwind into Precision.
For me, it doesn't seem worth it to level in Berserker Stance just for the 3% crit.
Until you can max out Imp. Berserker Stance, I wouldn't even consider leveling in berserker, even then I am still skeptical.
Basically, upgrade your gear a bit and just hang in there.
eldik wrote:
a. Check your Gear!
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Warriors protection Costs tons of money!!
ii.Upgrade your soloing:Try to get Offensive abilities when obtaining items... Its not that bad if you exchange your stamina
items with more strength and agility. (Yes , you will suck as a warrior-tank but you will xp easier).
Try to improve your Criticals!!
Remove items with intellect , resistances...
Try to find items that exactly match your level-if possible.
Do this every 2-3 levels
******** ... granted, upgrading your gear all the time with bought stuff helps, but it's a huge waste of cash, and unnecessary. Quest rewards and random drops are perfectly sufficient. Wander across to the auction house and pick up a bargain occasionally if you want to, but it's by no means a requirement. Of course, you still need to ensure your stats are sorta in line (the poster above gives some good points). YOu just don't need to do it as often as every 2 levels, and you certainly don't need to blow huge amounts of money on it.
eldik wrote:
b. What spec are you?
....
Go Arms or Fury..
...
Thank **** -- at least ONE piece of relevant advice.
eldik wrote:
see/explore all abilities in your tree with
your own eyes and not just by reading whatever one tells you in forums...
rofl - so we should ignore the advice of others when we ask for it ;-D .... this after you've spend a massive amount of typing giving your own 2c
eldik wrote:
c.Change the places you soloing!!!!
Not all mobs ,at same level, have same difficulty..Try to find mobs that are designed to the measures of the warrior.
Its not a shame to hunt for green mobs...?(Although they dont give much xp). Mobs that I like are the ones that have dinstance between them so they dont come altogeather when thunderclap or Shout is casted but after one is down you can charge on the other... I also prefer mobs that stick on you when you they are close to death and dont try to run. Pick
mobs that you know that will give both xp and money to improve your gear...
Again, bullsh*t - you should very easily be able to handle any same level mob in the game, hell - even up to 2 levels higher than you. You'll battle when the Mob's level number is orange, which is 3 levels higher, but then everybody has a tougher time with those ... it's built into the game(unless you're a lock or Hunter ;->). Stay away from Red mobs (again, unless you're a lock or Hunter) ... they hurt. but focussing on green mobs because you can't kill yellows ... well, that shouldn't happen.
eldik wrote:
d. Get Addons!!!
Its hopless without this addon...
Bullsh*t (again) ..the first time I installed addons (on my first character, this being my first MMO) was at level 60 - I did just fine with the standard UI until then.
You're a mine of useless information, aren't you ... next thing you're going to insist we spam rend when tanking ... oh, wait ...
to re-iterate Mentalfrog ... 40's suck (there is a real reason Blizz added more questing content to Dustwallow Marsh to help this lull period) ... and it's not helped by the fact that the 3 zones you need to concentrate on are Tanaris, Ferelas and Hinterlands ... the first 2 are close enough to each other, the other one is on a different continent, and on the other end of that continent ... travelling between these zones is a royal pain. Push through the pain, once you get to WPL /EPL and Winterspring ... things move a bit quicker.
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Edited, Jul 16th 2008 10:59am by robertlofthouse
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To DierCrym-robertlofthouse :
a. The amounts spend on upgrading a warrior are hudge in comparison to the amount spend to other classes.(I think)
Yes, you dont need evey 2 - 3 levels upgrade. Or better :You should not need evey 2 - 3 levels upgrade . But you do.
Apparently the person wrote the post had a problem by doing exactly what you suggested. I know this because up to 40-48
I did exactly what you suggested. And did not work that well.
The only way that your rule robertlofthouse will work is if you:
i.Spend time on Internet to find best quest rewards.
ii.Doing instances all the time.
If you are consistent with the above 2 then you are correct.
b.No comment
c.This did not happened to my warrior as well as does not happen to the person who wrote the post. If the person who
wrote the post could fight an 'orange' mob this post would not apply.Apparently you (robertlofthouse) are refering
toyour warrior who had at that level perfect gear.
d. Add ons are essential tools in WOW . Eg you can find exactly where the mobs required in a quest are with quest helper.
PS:Mentalfrog is a decent warrior from what I have learned and gained my respect.
PS2:Dont lose your good points in whatever you want to say robertlofthouse by using bad language.
PS3:Its jenerally not a good idea to post messages Like : I own orange mobs when the original post is about exactly
the oposite.
Ryugan :
Ryugan is correct about your gear. ?Your equipment level fits perfectly a 40 level warrior.
If you had all those at 40 you probably own orange to red mobs.
a. The amounts spend on upgrading a warrior are hudge in comparison to the amount spend to other classes.(I think)
Yes, you dont need evey 2 - 3 levels upgrade. Or better :You should not need evey 2 - 3 levels upgrade . But you do.
Apparently the person wrote the post had a problem by doing exactly what you suggested. I know this because up to 40-48
I did exactly what you suggested. And did not work that well.
The only way that your rule robertlofthouse will work is if you:
i.Spend time on Internet to find best quest rewards.
ii.Doing instances all the time.
If you are consistent with the above 2 then you are correct.
b.No comment
c.This did not happened to my warrior as well as does not happen to the person who wrote the post. If the person who
wrote the post could fight an 'orange' mob this post would not apply.Apparently you (robertlofthouse) are refering
toyour warrior who had at that level perfect gear.
d. Add ons are essential tools in WOW . Eg you can find exactly where the mobs required in a quest are with quest helper.
PS:Mentalfrog is a decent warrior from what I have learned and gained my respect.
PS2:Dont lose your good points in whatever you want to say robertlofthouse by using bad language.
PS3:Its jenerally not a good idea to post messages Like : I own orange mobs when the original post is about exactly
the oposite.
Ryugan :
Ryugan is correct about your gear. ?Your equipment level fits perfectly a 40 level warrior.
If you had all those at 40 you probably own orange to red mobs.
Go run ZF. 2 runs + all the ZF quests will probably get you to lvl 48. Plus, you get the chance at an awesome shoulder piece.
ZF is really easy to get a group for too. Everyone loves to run it in their mid-upper 40s (which also means you outlevel it, so it will be a fast run) I've never had to spend more than 5 minutes putting a group together for that.
Remember to use the /who, and be VERY courteous when you ask people to join your group.
Edited, Jul 16th 2008 9:31am by YJMark
ZF is really easy to get a group for too. Everyone loves to run it in their mid-upper 40s (which also means you outlevel it, so it will be a fast run) I've never had to spend more than 5 minutes putting a group together for that.
Remember to use the /who, and be VERY courteous when you ask people to join your group.
Edited, Jul 16th 2008 9:31am by YJMark
eldik wrote:
To DierCrym-robertlofthouse :
a. The amounts spend on upgrading a warrior are hudge in comparison to the amount spend to other classes.(I think)
Yes, you dont need evey 2 - 3 levels upgrade. Or better :You should not need evey 2 - 3 levels upgrade . But you do.
Apparently the person wrote the post had a problem by doing exactly what you suggested. I know this because up to 40-48
I did exactly what you suggested. And did not work that well.
The only way that your rule robertlofthouse will work is if you:
i.Spend time on Internet to find best quest rewards.
ii.Doing instances all the time.
If you are consistent with the above 2 then you are correct.
b.No comment
c.This did not happened to my warrior as well as does not happen to the person who wrote the post. If the person who
wrote the post could fight an 'orange' mob this post would not apply.Apparently you (robertlofthouse) are refering
toyour warrior who had at that level perfect gear.
d. Add ons are essential tools in WOW . Eg you can find exactly where the mobs required in a quest are with quest helper.
PS:Mentalfrog is a decent warrior from what I have learned and gained my respect.
PS2:Dont lose your good points in whatever you want to say robertlofthouse by using bad language.
PS3:Its jenerally not a good idea to post messages Like : I own orange mobs when the original post is about exactly
the oposite.
Ryugan :
Ryugan is correct about your gear. ?Your equipment level fits perfectly a 40 level warrior.
If you had all those at 40 you probably own orange to red mobs.
a. The amounts spend on upgrading a warrior are hudge in comparison to the amount spend to other classes.(I think)
Yes, you dont need evey 2 - 3 levels upgrade. Or better :You should not need evey 2 - 3 levels upgrade . But you do.
Apparently the person wrote the post had a problem by doing exactly what you suggested. I know this because up to 40-48
I did exactly what you suggested. And did not work that well.
The only way that your rule robertlofthouse will work is if you:
i.Spend time on Internet to find best quest rewards.
ii.Doing instances all the time.
If you are consistent with the above 2 then you are correct.
b.No comment
c.This did not happened to my warrior as well as does not happen to the person who wrote the post. If the person who
wrote the post could fight an 'orange' mob this post would not apply.Apparently you (robertlofthouse) are refering
toyour warrior who had at that level perfect gear.
d. Add ons are essential tools in WOW . Eg you can find exactly where the mobs required in a quest are with quest helper.
PS:Mentalfrog is a decent warrior from what I have learned and gained my respect.
PS2:Dont lose your good points in whatever you want to say robertlofthouse by using bad language.
PS3:Its jenerally not a good idea to post messages Like : I own orange mobs when the original post is about exactly
the oposite.
Ryugan :
Ryugan is correct about your gear. ?Your equipment level fits perfectly a 40 level warrior.
If you had all those at 40 you probably own orange to red mobs.
I reiterate ...
You do NOT need to continuously upgrade your gear every 2 levels at the auction house in order to effectively level ... you just don't. Have you ever heard of the Troll Warrior who levelled his warrior to 70 ... NAKED. Granted, he played a little more circumspectly, but the point is that having the latest Gear from the Auction house by dumping huge amounts of gold all the time is NOT necessary.
You seem to be making this assertion forgetting that every single piece of advice about gear you'll get from experienced players, generally involves a comment along the lines of "Don't buy things from the Auction house ..."
I never did a single instance on my warrior before 70 .. ever, but yes, I made sure I did all the relevant quests to get the right rewards ... but that's a very small time expenditure, and that is all that is required.
I never said anything about looking to take on orange mobs, read my post properly - that's what you do if you want to battle (I'm sure I mentioned that), I was saying you can easily always take on yellow mobs (around your level) ... they are on a par with you, and the game is designed to allow you to take them down. You do NOT have to look for green mobs for things to be easy. If you find it hard to kill mobs of your own level .. no comment.
wrt me having the "perfect gear" ...as I said - instances (where the "Perfect gear" is) was not part of my playing routine ... ever ...
The only time Addons become "Essential tools" is when you start raiding, for every other aspect of the game, they are nice to haves. Things like Questhelper and Liteheaded have only been around in a usable form for the last year or so ... how did people level before that I wonder.
Regarding:
PS : well good for you, what has that got to do with anything
PS2 : rofl ... you think I give a damn about "Points" ... rate me down if you want to ... I promise I won't cry.
PS3 : Again, where did I say anything about owning orange mobs ?
Once again, let's get back to the answer to the question posted by the OP : the bottom line is that levelling in the 40s sucks, ask anyone - it's no fun, it drags (dunno why, maybe the XP gained from quests scales back a touch, who knows), and that's all there is to it.
Edited, Jul 17th 2008 2:02am by robertlofthouse
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