I recently tamed Arikara with my Blood Elf and was wondering if it was worth using Bite as it looks like the normal damage plus the Lightning Breath uses most of his energy up , i did not check the logs but there seems little difference either way .
The real question i have is an odd one anyway.
I had a high level tryout on a Wind Serpent and it behaved as all other flying pets i have tried .
But Arikara seems to do some weird things like when set on aggressive ( i always play pet that way anyway ) it will not always attack the nearest mob but will go far enough away that even when it brings the mob closer i still have to run towards the mob to be able to shoot it .
Or when just following it sometimes wanders away from behind me or just stops ? not seen any threads about it unless it was a long time ago anyone had the same weird issues ?
I do like the way it appears with that Puff of smoke but if its going to do its own thing and wander about i can see it might not be my pet for very long.
But then i am a sucker for the pets nobody uses anyway.
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For the love of all that is hunter, don't play it on aggressive when grouped with anyone. what you do on your own is your business.
as for focus, if you are high enough to justify a wind serpent then your crit will be such that when coupled with GFTT, you will have plenty.
as for focus, if you are high enough to justify a wind serpent then your crit will be such that when coupled with GFTT, you will have plenty.
Well thats the thing i do anyway as a Solo hunter , aggressive Pet is the most fun as it always can be unpredictable but i have full control of which mobs my pets attack , a simple follow or a tell to attack the one i select is always possible.
Not being funny but if you try pet on aggressive it will never as far as i can tell attack mobs your level easily and never above unless the mob jumps on you , but a few levels below is what i am usually questing on anyway , i am trying to see if it is possible to get exalted with all the main factions by 40 or at least Undercity and at level 35 i am about half way through revered with all factions.
And Group play as you say is very different to Solo Play , any Hunter that sets pet on Aggressive without it being a low level area or instance to them would be crazy, we did it in Tanaris for a low level guild member ( forgotten the instance name ) and just followed the Ravager i had as it destroyed everything in its path , but we were 10 levels above the place so was good fun watching the chaos unfurl.
Not being funny but if you try pet on aggressive it will never as far as i can tell attack mobs your level easily and never above unless the mob jumps on you , but a few levels below is what i am usually questing on anyway , i am trying to see if it is possible to get exalted with all the main factions by 40 or at least Undercity and at level 35 i am about half way through revered with all factions.
And Group play as you say is very different to Solo Play , any Hunter that sets pet on Aggressive without it being a low level area or instance to them would be crazy, we did it in Tanaris for a low level guild member ( forgotten the instance name ) and just followed the Ravager i had as it destroyed everything in its path , but we were 10 levels above the place so was good fun watching the chaos unfurl.
funny thing that comes to mind is when we recently summoned in a hunter to mag's lair who had been pvping. pet set to aggressive and bang, it hits one of the guy's to start the fight. We actually did have a decent laugh so it could have been worse. your explanation makes good sense though :D
Come on guys/girls i was hoping for some feedback here.
Question 1. Is lightning breath enough or do i need Bite as well , as i said it seems to make little difference with the damage done either way ?
Question 2. was has any others had weird tracking ? games with Arikara or is it just me ?
as i said it follows me then suddenly stops and wanders off or will attack a mob way beyond the nearest target ?
Question 1. Is lightning breath enough or do i need Bite as well , as i said it seems to make little difference with the damage done either way ?
Question 2. was has any others had weird tracking ? games with Arikara or is it just me ?
as i said it follows me then suddenly stops and wanders off or will attack a mob way beyond the nearest target ?
1. You need a 'focus dump' attack skill. A full focus bar is bad as that means its going unused. I'm not too familiar with wind serpents so you'll have to pick one from the available skills shown in Petopia or elsewhere.
2. Are you referring to pathing? Sometimes pets take weird routes around obstacles. Its based on how the blocks that make up the terrain mesh together.
3. If you've got your pet on aggressive in PvE so it attacks anything and everything, I've no pity for you. :p
2. Are you referring to pathing? Sometimes pets take weird routes around obstacles. Its based on how the blocks that make up the terrain mesh together.
3. If you've got your pet on aggressive in PvE so it attacks anything and everything, I've no pity for you. :p
The Basics of Wind Serpents is the only attacks they can learn are lightning Breath and Claw , as LB is as far as i can tell a focus dump and Claw is not is why i was asking about Claw , my thoughts are let the focus dump do its work and that is why i asked about Claw.
The pathing issue is weird as in no it is not avoiding obstacles but more a turning off the following and going at right angles to the path i am on , it does not do it all the time but often enough for me to notice and wonder if it is off to attack something i have not seen ( mining tracking on ) so i miss a lot of mobs .
And having pet on aggressive while doing PVE is not dangerous at all , which shows that most have never properly tried it , the pet will only willingly attack lower level mobs , same level mobs i can almost run up to and hit them before my pets attack .
Yesterday i was Doing a quest that required killing Ogres , now i am at level 35 they were a few levels lower all i had to do was stand in the middle walk towards the mobs and kill whichever mob my pet attacked , nothing hard in that at all in fact it was far simpler than keep having to select a target for my pet all the time.
The way aggressive on pets works is the lower level the mob the more the pet wants to attack , as the mobs get closer to your level the less the pet wants to attack , and if the mob is higher there is almost no chance the pet will attack unless either you or the pet is attacked (so for normal play it makes no real difference that pet is on aggressive ).
I offer a challenge to any farmer to try it out , pick an area of slightly lower mobs you want to farm that you know well enough , set pet on Aggressive , remember to allow pet to do its work and heal it if needed , and if you get any problems you can always cancel the aggressive mode , i farm and quest in aggressive mode 99% of the time and never get any problems , i am not a great Hunter but i never die because my pet is wanting to kill everything around , what will happen is any journey by foot will take longer as your pet stops to attack everything along the way , you will find as i do that you still have to select the pets target at times though .
Examples are prides of lions hiding in the Barrens let pet find them you just finish them off , in outland farming Warp Stalkers and the other mobs with them outside Shattrath is so easy just run around killing whatever your pet attacks .
Never ever do it in a group unless it is friends of yours that know what to expect though , i would never do it in any instance unless i can already Solo it .
It will change your game play slightly if you try my mad ways but it sure is more fun , and i get more blue and green drops from mobs that i would not have got from keeping pet on defensive mode all the time..
The pathing issue is weird as in no it is not avoiding obstacles but more a turning off the following and going at right angles to the path i am on , it does not do it all the time but often enough for me to notice and wonder if it is off to attack something i have not seen ( mining tracking on ) so i miss a lot of mobs .
And having pet on aggressive while doing PVE is not dangerous at all , which shows that most have never properly tried it , the pet will only willingly attack lower level mobs , same level mobs i can almost run up to and hit them before my pets attack .
Yesterday i was Doing a quest that required killing Ogres , now i am at level 35 they were a few levels lower all i had to do was stand in the middle walk towards the mobs and kill whichever mob my pet attacked , nothing hard in that at all in fact it was far simpler than keep having to select a target for my pet all the time.
The way aggressive on pets works is the lower level the mob the more the pet wants to attack , as the mobs get closer to your level the less the pet wants to attack , and if the mob is higher there is almost no chance the pet will attack unless either you or the pet is attacked (so for normal play it makes no real difference that pet is on aggressive ).
I offer a challenge to any farmer to try it out , pick an area of slightly lower mobs you want to farm that you know well enough , set pet on Aggressive , remember to allow pet to do its work and heal it if needed , and if you get any problems you can always cancel the aggressive mode , i farm and quest in aggressive mode 99% of the time and never get any problems , i am not a great Hunter but i never die because my pet is wanting to kill everything around , what will happen is any journey by foot will take longer as your pet stops to attack everything along the way , you will find as i do that you still have to select the pets target at times though .
Examples are prides of lions hiding in the Barrens let pet find them you just finish them off , in outland farming Warp Stalkers and the other mobs with them outside Shattrath is so easy just run around killing whatever your pet attacks .
Never ever do it in a group unless it is friends of yours that know what to expect though , i would never do it in any instance unless i can already Solo it .
It will change your game play slightly if you try my mad ways but it sure is more fun , and i get more blue and green drops from mobs that i would not have got from keeping pet on defensive mode all the time..
Just Lightening Breath is Ideal for a Wind Serpent.
sandralover wrote:
Come on guys/girls i was hoping for some feedback here.
Question 1. Is lightning breath enough or do i need Bite as well , as i said it seems to make little difference with the damage done either way ?
Question 2. was has any others had weird tracking ? games with Arikara or is it just me ?
as i said it follows me then suddenly stops and wanders off or will attack a mob way beyond the nearest target ?
Question 1. Is lightning breath enough or do i need Bite as well , as i said it seems to make little difference with the damage done either way ?
Question 2. was has any others had weird tracking ? games with Arikara or is it just me ?
as i said it follows me then suddenly stops and wanders off or will attack a mob way beyond the nearest target ?
1. For leveling, LB is enough. If you find that your pet is no longer holding aggro because it doesn't have the focus for Growl, then turn off LB and use Bite. For top DPS, you'd use both. Realistically, you'll level just fine with just Growl.
2. I don't have any sort of pathing issues with Arash-Ethis. Are you sure that it's not because it's on aggressive? It may be making weird changes in movement while looking for something to target.
Thanks for the answers , at the moment with just LB and Growl it is just about impossible to break the mobs off my pet , so i am happy about that , it looks like as soon as LB hits the mobs decide my pet is a better thing to attack than i am .
As for the Pathing fun i am not sure if it is because i use aggressive mode , i shall have to try normal play for a change , but it still does not seem right that it decides to fly to a further mob than one i can see is half the distance according to the mini map , but it has not caused me any real problems so far .
I still offer a challenge though for any Hunter that farms to try their pet on Aggressive , there are many ways to play a hunter and i intend to try them all , for those that play for fun aggressive mode may be useful to you , it sure as hell gets me much more in the way of greens and blues and all sorts of other drops i would otherwise miss as i level , so far i could have fitted out a level 19 twink hunter/rogue ect with all blues , and thats from just one hunter now level 36 , and through farming and selling jewellery has well over 1000g
Just been playing with my Ghost Saber and she did the same thing in Dun Garok , she ran straight by a mob in a corridor to attack a mob in the next room so its a weird pet trick i guess. ?.
Edited, Jul 16th 2008 2:37pm by sandralover
As for the Pathing fun i am not sure if it is because i use aggressive mode , i shall have to try normal play for a change , but it still does not seem right that it decides to fly to a further mob than one i can see is half the distance according to the mini map , but it has not caused me any real problems so far .
I still offer a challenge though for any Hunter that farms to try their pet on Aggressive , there are many ways to play a hunter and i intend to try them all , for those that play for fun aggressive mode may be useful to you , it sure as hell gets me much more in the way of greens and blues and all sorts of other drops i would otherwise miss as i level , so far i could have fitted out a level 19 twink hunter/rogue ect with all blues , and thats from just one hunter now level 36 , and through farming and selling jewellery has well over 1000g
Just been playing with my Ghost Saber and she did the same thing in Dun Garok , she ran straight by a mob in a corridor to attack a mob in the next room so its a weird pet trick i guess. ?.
Edited, Jul 16th 2008 2:37pm by sandralover
I've had pets on aggressive before. I prefer to control when mobs get pulled to me rather than have my pet decide to grab the nearest mob while I'm drinking.
Just Lightning Breath is enough for it is an extremely powerful attack and it's not worth it spending TP into Bite that is worse than it.
Just don't put the LB on autocast, because Wind Serpents, or at least many of them, will bug if you do. If you want the DPS without the pain of always clicking on it, go for a ravager.
Just don't put the LB on autocast, because Wind Serpents, or at least many of them, will bug if you do. If you want the DPS without the pain of always clicking on it, go for a ravager.
Thanks for all the replies , even though i have been playing a long time now it did make me curious about the weird movements i was getting from Arikara , and it was also happening with my other pets i found as well.
i am sure it was a previous patch that started it as since the last patch none of my pets although still on Aggressive most of the time behave properly , and yes my LB is on auto although i have had no problems at all with it.
And believe it or not i just cannot pull aggro off Akikara ( renamed Puff ) even when shooting just before he hits the mob , they still want to kill him , which is not the same for marmalade my cat as i can easily be doing the Hunters melee dance.
Another pet that surprises me with holding aggro is my tallstrider ( Mazzranache renamed to Milkshake as he loves bashing in the heads of the Allied that taunt him ) my cat cannot get close to the aggro he seems to generate even though with the extra damage i would have thought a cat would be better ?.
i am sure it was a previous patch that started it as since the last patch none of my pets although still on Aggressive most of the time behave properly , and yes my LB is on auto although i have had no problems at all with it.
And believe it or not i just cannot pull aggro off Akikara ( renamed Puff ) even when shooting just before he hits the mob , they still want to kill him , which is not the same for marmalade my cat as i can easily be doing the Hunters melee dance.
Another pet that surprises me with holding aggro is my tallstrider ( Mazzranache renamed to Milkshake as he loves bashing in the heads of the Allied that taunt him ) my cat cannot get close to the aggro he seems to generate even though with the extra damage i would have thought a cat would be better ?.
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