New Warrior Leveling/Talents/XpFollow

This Text is meant for Warrior Friends and to anyone who likes to Contribute
with usefull info concerning the following issues :

1.Warrior Talents
2.Warrior Gear
3.Leveling your warrior.
4.Warrior PVP
5.Warrior Tank

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1. WARRIOR Talents

As a new warrior you come to a point where you must pick : Arms / Fury / Protection

Dont go into protection. You need to play DPS-like at small levels because both tanking in instances
and soloing into WOW world dont require high tanking abilities. You can play the tank role quite well
being in Arms or Fury.

As you progress in Levels try to change to both ARMS and FURY and find out the advantages and disadvantages they have.
You will find the style that goes well to you. My choise is arms.

ARMS :

a.Go for Intercept and Harmstring and discover the warriors PVP strength:
Harmstring the oppontent (makes him slow or Stunned) then run away from him and charge(Intercept)!!!!

b.Dont throw points on Rend and thunderClap.

c.Overpower is nice : When this button is active you can damage a great deal your opponent.

d.Try to pick all the atrributes if possible in talent tree to see for yourself pros and cons of arms.When you hit 40
Unlearn your talents and re learn some other items not selected before.

e.When you get to pick specialisation for Mace, polearms or Sword remember this : Both 3 items are on same importance
hight/level in tree so the difference between them is not that major .The real question is how you like to play.

f.Rend although does not contribute in much in dps its essential items on PVP against rogues as they lose the ability to
become invisible.


2. GEAR

a.When progressing 2-3 levels above your gearing items you will see that your poor warr does not hit well defend well etc.
Warriors are highly gear dependent that means that all the power of the warrior is unleashed when he has the proper gear
either for pvp or for soloing-tanking. Great items come from instances so try to find good groups in order to participate
in instances. If you have the luxury of having cash then this problem (gearing) is easy.

b.Select items with : i)Strength (1strength=2 attack power-only for warr)ii)then stamina iii)then agility .
Get rid of all items with intellect.


3. LEVELING YOUR WARRIOR

If you dont have much time to play , dont sit around to wait for a party to assemble in order to do an instance , do
quests.Dont waist time in practicing a profession.Its such a waist of time (and xp) in low levels.The only real thing
you need is some food for your warrior wich can be found in almost any vendor.Its difficult enough to level a character
how about leveling his professions....
Try to pick zones that offer money. This way you get both xp and cash.

4. WARRIOR PVP
Warriors are exellent pvp units but that takes a lot of practice , good gearing and knowledge of strenths and weakneses.
Try to find your class/race advantages over other classes/races. For e.g Human warriors can see rogues while they are
invisible! This is a tromendous advantage over them. Try to find also what kind of tactic you can use over other classes.
Some classes use powerfull abilities wich dont last long , in such case you should try to find a way to wear your opponent
and then strike.

5. WARRIOR AS A TANK
a.Warriors are the best 1 on 1 tanks that is when tanking the boss in an instance. Palladins are for multiple mob
tanking that is 1 on 3-4 . Dont be suprized though if in small levels you see a rogue tanking!
b.Warriors best aggro
accepting ability is rend . So , REND ,REND ,REND ... everything you see. If you dont rend you will lose aggro no mater
how high is your strength or your crtical raqting or no matter what gear you have. Remember that in groups your the aggro
controler , others do not- I REPEAT: DO NOT EXPECT OF YOU TO DO ANY DAMAGE ON MOBS. They just dont want to be hitted when
entering a Combat , let Mage , rogue or other DPS class do the damage. Find ways to increase your AGGRO then and you
will be ok.
c.When you enter combat remember that for a few seconds you must raise aggro against all other team players (REND ,REND...)
so for those few seconds you fight ALONE against all mobs. This means that you have got to have Good :STAMINA ,DEFENCE,
PARRY , DODGE ,good shield with high Block (Strength also increases block)
d.If you lose aggro over your healer you must retrieve it, instruct your healer not to run around to avoid the mob but
instead to stand still!! Do your magic to remove the mob off him. If others are in danger as well then 1st potect your
healer then the rest.
e.Select Defensive stance and use a shield!! (Thats not obvious for some players!!)Some people believe they can tank well
with a 2 handed sword!!! Yes they can tank but not as well as with a shield.Bisque TextBisque Text

Your tanking sucks.

High Threat: Sunder Armor, Heroic Strike, Shield Slam, Devastate, Revenge, Thunder Clap

Low Threat: Slam, Rend, Hamstring

No wonder you lose threat if you don't rend.

eldik :'.b.Warriors best aggro accepting ability is rend . So , REND ,REND ,REND ....'


YJMark :'What about sunder and TClap and Revenge and Sheild Slam and Devastate and..... I don't know, but
I never use rend when tanking, and I don't loose aggro. You may want to check that part out'.



Terrible mistake I ve made (Very Sorry : working yesterday for 10 hours straight... :( )since I confused REND with SUNDER ARMOUR.Rend is a DOT effect while Sunder Armor is an effect wich reduces the mobs armour and sticks him on you.


MentalFrog :'Your tanking sucks.'

eldik : Your name Sucks mentalFrog but by the way why dont you post something more iteresting than just: 'Your tanking
sucks' . How do you tank ?

marklartank :no, do not rend - EVER, EVER, EVER ... nothing you see. in fact, take rend off your main action bar -
it should only see use in PVP.

eldik: Correct.

MentalFrog : High Threat: Sunder Armor, Heroic Strike, Shield Slam, Devastate, Revenge, Thunder Clap

Low Threat: Slam, Rend, HamstringNo wonder you lose threat if you don't rend.

eldik : Now you seem to look like a true Warrior. Correct

devioususer :For low level tanking, revenge, shield bash, sunder and heroic strike are your best tanking abilities.
Tclap is good for multi-mob tanking and should be used when you start taking too much damage on
solo targets too. demo shout is also a wonderful tanking tool, reducing incoming damage and a small amount
of threat over a large group of targets.
For mid level tanking, see low level tanking.
For high level tanking (<70) see low level tanking.
Apparently Rend is getting a review for warriors. It may be a good thing in the future...

eldik :Apparently Rend is my mistake... . For all the other things you mention ,you are correct.

Well start the fight ask your parties to allow you do 1 sunder on each mob and instruct with the kill order: Skull, X, Circle and etc. This should be enough to hold aggro on 4 mobs. I did that in ST an Ulda, no problems at all. Especially in instances like the ST when there are multiple non elite mobs whatever drood or pally is nice to cover them and in the same time they don't get so much inc. dmg from the non elite mobs. Other way is to have a mage or lock using their AOE spells. Mage better and the non elites die really quick.

So it comes to a group composition and not actually the tank spec. when clearing the low lvl instances. You know that the warrior is 1on1 tanker so try to find a group that can handle with multi mobs groups.

Another way to keep aggro on 4 mobs except the TClap and Demo is the Cleave attack. In this cases I prefer using it over HStrike as it hits more mobs at the same time.

All of these should work if you have a decent gear. Not the best available but well updated. Otherwise it may cause your healer get the healing aggro on the mobs not tanking at the moment. If they are tauntable it won't be a problem to save him. In any other cases the healer should give you a second to obtain aggro on the mob again which may be crucial because 3-4 mobs are focused on you.

The most important for me tanking in the low instances is to explain your parties what they should do and what you do expect from them, i.e explaining the fight tactics and make sure they all undestand it.

Its not obligatory to be prot. speced. You can do fine as pure PVP or DPS warrior too.

P.S. Tanking in Def Stance is important since you receive less dmg. Tanking with shield too. Sunder, Sunder, Revenge (if available), Tclap, Demo, Sunder, Sunder(revenge) and etc. Use other abilities as you wish and when possible (Im Furry and I usually use Bloodthirst it gives you some extra threat and returns little HP :)). Don't forget you have Shield Block and always announce when you activate Last Stand or Shield wall.

Edited, Jul 15th 2008 5:36am by Metosa

..and if you aren't interested in PvP? The assumption that everyone is trying to "discover the warriors PVP strength" is pretty presumptuous of you. I really wouldn't want to HARMstring someone, though... at least not until warriors get that ability.