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#1 Jul 12 2008 at 5:36 PM Rating: Decent
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THERE IS NO ******* HIT REQUIREMENT FOR ANY INSTANCE.

EVER.

YOU GEAR FOR MAXIMUM DPS. USE A ******* SPREADSHEET.

Love,
Theo

PS: LEARN TO USE A ******* SPREADSHEET.
#2 Jul 12 2008 at 6:10 PM Rating: Good
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teehee it's always funny to see a rant's origin and then see the rant.
#3 Jul 12 2008 at 7:04 PM Rating: Good
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PS: LEARN TO USE A @#%^ING SPREADSHEET.
#4 Jul 13 2008 at 2:38 AM Rating: Decent
This really made my lmao.
For starters the spreadsheet is alien and hard to use, but after you waste your time with it is something that will depend on.
#5 Jul 13 2008 at 5:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Is there a link to this mythical spreadsheet anywhere?
#6 Jul 13 2008 at 6:51 AM Rating: Good
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#7 Jul 13 2008 at 7:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Yay! Now I can finally get a clue.
#8 Jul 14 2008 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
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i registered for some classes down at the community college, so in a month or so i'll have it figured out.
#9 Jul 15 2008 at 6:44 AM Rating: Good
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Demea wrote:
http://rogue.raidcal.com/


ZOMG, Demea's back on the rogue forums!!!


Run for the hills!!!!!!!!!
#10 Jul 18 2008 at 5:57 AM Rating: Good
Hello all,

I've been a lurker in these forums for about 2 years now, but I’ve never been motivated to sign up and post. Well that changed yesterday.

First off, before I found this fountain of knowledge called the rogue forum I knew virtually nothing about my class. So in my first post, let me give a big "Thank you" and Kudos to all of you who have taken (and still do so) the time to guide and teach those who are willing to learn. Even to those impertinent warriors who from time to time stop by.

That being said, I especially like when Theo gets fired up. It seems like his anger actually brings me joy… So, it being Friday and me needing entertainment at work, I've decided to post a link to my guild's rogue forum for some interesting reading.

Background: the guild recently established a group of new class masters in an attempt to increase our raiding success. The new rogue *** master, errr I mean Class Master, has some interesting new mandates that really hit home why Theo gets so worked up over idiots. It's a bit of a long read, but for those of you who have nothing to do at work this morning – Enjoy!

(I’m Namfoodle BTW)

http://manusdomini.guildomatic.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=316&sid=d96193c8c2108afff3d7a5bbaeec5743
#11 Jul 18 2008 at 7:18 AM Rating: Decent
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You guys have a good argument and you both bring up good points but I think your class master is looking at the wrong things. I believe he should be looking at DPS as the operative "stat" as increasing one stat exponentially ie. HR to 250 is not the right way to go about things. This guy needs to read the theorycrafting sites more and also listen to the people in his class.

I stand by my saying, if you are going to be an elitist jerk... Know your ****.
#12 Jul 18 2008 at 12:11 PM Rating: Good
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I would drop that guild in a heartbeat. He's a moron and a douchebag.

That's worse than having me as your rogue class leader. I'd just be calling people morons, but I'd help them with their gear.

He's just telling you basically, "until you out DPS me, STFU" which isn't right.

Well, I out DPS him, and I'm saying that he's a ******* moron. There isn't a hit rating requirement because you gem/enchant for DPS; it just so happens that more often than not, hit is our greatest DPS boost.

Please, tell your rogue leader grats (here's his armory, for those curious), he's ******* terrible if he can only pull 1000 DPS with the gear he's got.

You can go ahead and show him that a rogue with worse gear (I'm actually laughing at how much better his gear is right now; I've got 1878 AP and 301 hit) pulls 1400+ DPS on Naj. This is with morons in my guild that can't pop Naj's bubble, thus decreasing my DPS time.
#13 Jul 18 2008 at 1:18 PM Rating: Good
Thanks for the responses guys. It really is too bad, as I know a lot of good people in that guild. I'll probably just stop raiding altogether until this douche leaves or is kicked. I guess I'll need to go read up on PvP now...

This guy is a recent addition that was /gkicked from the #1 alliance guild on our pitiful server. It's always entertaining to discover just how uninformed even so-called accomplished players are regarding the theory behind their class. Thanks again and good luck over the weekend.

AL
#14 Jul 18 2008 at 2:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Sorry, I just laughed at that guys reasoning and responses in that guildomatic forums.
This person just compared 3 guilds worth of rogues to the worlds rogue population, with no hard evidence btw.
That rogue leader of yours is an idiot.
It is a proven fact that if you associate with these idiotic creatures, that your IQ will substantially decrease.
Be warned.
#15 Jul 18 2008 at 4:42 PM Rating: Decent
I like how he's using Vile intent over the SSO exalted neck.
#16 Jul 18 2008 at 7:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Alzado wrote:
Thanks for the responses guys. It really is too bad, as I know a lot of good people in that guild. I'll probably just stop raiding altogether until this douche leaves or is kicked. I guess I'll need to go read up on PvP now...

This guy is a recent addition that was /gkicked from the #1 alliance guild on our pitiful server. It's always entertaining to discover just how uninformed even so-called accomplished players are regarding the theory behind their class. Thanks again and good luck over the weekend.

AL

Luckily, I'm way ahead of you.

Theo's PvP FAQ can be found (probably) on the first page of the forums.
#17 Jul 18 2008 at 8:36 PM Rating: Decent
I agree.

I dont know how many times I will see a rogue roll on something that is a complete downgrade massively, but it has 1-2 more hit rating, under the assumption that since they are not hit capped this new item will somehow magically become better.

Everything else being equal 1% hit will do 1% more dmg(yes i know for various reasons this is a big simplification).

But i will see a rogue(mage aslo are guilty of this.) lose a ton of crit, agi, and attack power to get a very minimal hit upgrade, under the magical assumption that hitting more often by .1% of the time is somehow going to compentate for the 40 attackpower loss, the 15 crit and the 10 agi, or somthing other significantly silly like that.

#18 Jul 19 2008 at 4:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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I would drop that guild in a heartbeat.

Agreed.


But back to the OP.... Hey Theo, how much Hit do I need for SFK? I'm thinking 10. Smiley: sly
#19 Jul 19 2008 at 4:37 PM Rating: Decent
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TherionSaysWhat wrote:
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I would drop that guild in a heartbeat.

Agreed.


But back to the OP.... Hey Theo, how much Hit do I need for SFK? I'm thinking 10. Smiley: sly

SFK?

0. Smiley: tongue
#20 Jul 19 2008 at 4:40 PM Rating: Good
Yeah. I don't know what the hell this guy is thinking. Thanks for the support. Being drunk on Saturday night ( and having just shot a terrible 89 at the golf course I was playing today), maybe I'll flame him completely and see if he tries to kick me. What do you think? Complete drunken flame or excersise restraint? My money's on complete drunken flame!

Al

Edited, Jul 19th 2008 9:11pm by Alzado

Edited, Jul 19th 2008 9:11pm by Alzado
#21 Jul 19 2008 at 5:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Alzado wrote:
Yeah. I don't know what the hell this guy is thinking. Thanks for the support. Being drunk on Saturday night ( and having just shot a terrible 89 at the golf course I was playing today), maybe I'll flame him completely and see if he tries to kick me. What do you think? Complete drunken flame or excersise restain. My money's on complete drunken flame!

Al

I actually flame less when I'm drunk, because it'd end up being a complete drunken ramble.

But go for it, if he's not listening to you, he's a moron.

Either that or tell him to try coming to post here; I've got way more experience than him, so it should be funny. Smiley: grin
#22 Jul 19 2008 at 11:05 PM Rating: Good
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That thread was full of win and hilarity.

I'd kill for that guy's gear, but I probably do about equal DPS in the mix of T4 and T5 that I have now.
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#23 Jul 20 2008 at 5:01 AM Rating: Decent
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he uses 26 AP on his gloves instead of 15 agil... that alone is enough for me to agree with theo about him being a moron
#24 Jul 20 2008 at 6:07 AM Rating: Decent
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reminds me of the time (in 1.x) when the guild's mt came up with a prot build for warrs that didn't include shield slam. anyone who took the build got a 25% dkp bonus. i suggested dropping one point from imp heroic to pick up shield slam, the GL said 'no, it's gotta be exact point-for-point.' started an anonymous thread at the oboards that was 100% in support of me but they wouldn't change their minds. hated leaving them like that, but i xferred off that server shortly thereafter.
#25 Jul 20 2008 at 9:28 AM Rating: Good
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Shivera wrote:
he uses 26 AP on his gloves instead of 15 agil... that alone is enough for me to agree with theo about him being a moron


Funny, I was thinking the same thing about your post.

Seriously, it's not like he put mana regen on his chest or something. 26 AP is a good enchant for hands; it just happens that 15 agility is better (and should be what he gets, yes). For all you know he's been trying to find 15 agility but was unsuccessful; or he knows he should but just keeps forgetting. Judging someone for using the second-best enchant for a slot makes you the moron, not him.

This rogue IS a moron, of course, but you're as much of one.

This thread has also reminded me I need to get my OH mongoosed before tonight's Kara. Damn.
#26 Jul 20 2008 at 10:01 AM Rating: Default
bismarckmajivo wrote:
Shivera wrote:
he uses 26 AP on his gloves instead of 15 agil... that alone is enough for me to agree with theo about him being a moron


Funny, I was thinking the same thing about your post.

Seriously, it's not like he put mana regen on his chest or something. 26 AP is a good enchant for hands; it just happens that 15 agility is better (and should be what he gets, yes). For all you know he's been trying to find 15 agility but was unsuccessful; or he knows he should but just keeps forgetting. Judging someone for using the second-best enchant for a slot makes you the moron, not him.

This rogue IS a moron, of course, but you're as much of one.

This thread has also reminded me I need to get my OH mongoosed before tonight's Kara. Damn.


No, you're a moron.

Seriously, hate to further this regression of maturity, but...

It's not hard to get 15 agi. spend 10 minutes and you have it.
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