Kara - Enchant Blues/Greens and give it a go?Follow

others can help you more than I can as I haven't been in kara yet either, but is your guild walking through kara easily now or will they need you to contribute substantially?

It will depend on how the other 9 are equipped as well. If they are experienced and capable, you could be in 'whites' and probably get through the first couple of bosses as long as there is other dps to pick up the load.

We got to Opera in pretty mediocre stuff but we had two in our party that were very well equipped and very experienced.

Sadly, our group seems to do much better in PvE than we ever did in PvP.

In any case, if the rest of the group is well enough off, you can probably get by with what you have. If they are marginal as well, then you'll have issues. Check out the Pre-Raid list. Even a couple of days grinding out some S2 gear doing BG's would probably get you up to snuff pretty fast.

I'm slowly getting out of my instance blues and greens... slowly... ^_^

4/5 Frenzy and 5/5 Mortal Shots would be good too. Also Animal handler is the only way to increase your pets chance to hit, get 2 points out of imp mend pet or thick hide, this talent is a must for raiding.


Edited, Jul 9th 2008 12:06pm by Sweathog

Spec aside, which others have given you advice on. If your guild is asking you to go, then by all means go. Simply tell them when you are asked to go "I am not sure my gear is ready for this, but I am willing to give it a shot if you guys want me to go". People are much more forgiving if you tell them before hand that you aren't sure about your gear.

Either, you will go and everything will work out fine, or you will go and you fail miserably. If you succeed then all is well. If you fail, then you need to work on your gear and your clan also knows that you aren't ready either. It's not too big of an issue, if you ask me.

PM, I have that crossbow and my dps drops when using it. I keep it as my backup weapon, but it's definitely a drop. I don't know why, but I do more damage with Valanos'.

I'll upgrade to WSSR or 150 Badge Crossbow (dead parrot) whichever comes first.

Or it could be as simple as his Crossbow skill isn't maxed out.

Lol I didn't even check his skills, I just took the Customer Service approach to things and started with the simplest answer first and work my way up to the more complex answers.

Skill with a weapon type will affect your crit as well as your miss rate. Go AFK at Dr. boom with cheap arrows until it's maxed. Don't do tests otherwise.

If you still haven't decided, then since your guild has it on farm, even if it is the B team, and they asked you as opposed to you asking them, enchant and go. Chances are they know full well your situation. We did a run this week and the hunter didn't show up. We had two mages and asked one to get on his hunter alt, which he hadn't played in a long while and had never taken into Kara. He was rusty, but by the time we cleared through to Netherspite he picked up quite a bit of purpelz.

If you get lucky the same can happen for you. Who hasn't done a run with someone going into Kara for the first time only to hear them say "Oh wow, I'm getting so much gear in here guys." On your first time through most slots are available for upgrades, and if you're with a group that's got it on farm there's likely to be fewer people competing for the drops. We consider Kara to be on farm, but three of the groups running it are mainly doing it for the badges. In fact, thinking about it, the hunter may have been the only one picking up gear as we had eight shards to roll on.

Your crossbow skill level is still only 348 out of 350. Until you've maxed out your skill, Dr. Boom comparisons are not valid.

Max xbow skill and put a scope on it then test again.

You should be, on average, hitting roughly 1 shot/sec so the scope alone makes a difference of 10*(Crit%+(.03+.3)) if I'm not messing up my basic algebra, and assuming you have RED and Mortal Shots. The extra skill points make a small difference also (not just to misses).

Valanos' may well give you better dps. I know Sunfury was better for me than WSSR even before the days of the 3:2 until I upgraded my comp.

Edit: Whoops, forgot +dmg scopes only affect white damage. So, 5*(crit%+(.03+.3))

Edited, Jul 14th 2008 10:22pm by Ieatrocks

A lot of people don't realise there is a big difference between 349/350 and 350/350.

At 350 you switch to using a different formula for the +hit and +crit.
Going from 349 to 350 means roughly 1.4% +hit and 1.4% +crit for level 73 mobs.

Kelnoen,

First of all like everyone said it depends on how well the rest of your group is. If they're very well geared, you can go in there naked and still clear the place.

In terms of spec, for beginning raiding, 41/20/00 is definitely the spec to go, period. At this stage you don't have enough bonuses for MM to work.
Looking at your spec, you want to:

-Pump 1 point into Endurance Training.
-Take out all 3 points from Thick Hide.
-Take 1 out of Frenzy
-Pump 2 into Animal Handler, just like how you need +Hit, the +Hit for you pet is crucial as well.
-Finish 5/5 in Mortal Shots in MM

In terms of your gear, you're not quite there yet if your whole group is new.
You hit rating at 116 which is fine for now, but just know the cap is 142.
If you're into PvP at all, PvP 1 day for the Vindicator Bracers, they're great even for PvE. Then PvP 2 days each for the Guardian Belt as well as the Vindicator Boots.
Those 3 are the most beneficial PvP pieces for PvE. Also, if you do arenas at all, do 10 matches a week, and in about 3-4 weeks once you get 1000 points, you can get the
Vengeful Gladiator's Waraxe which will last you for a really long time.

Also, the hunter's D3 Set - Beastlord Armor is great going into Kara with as well. The pieces all drop from normal instances so it shouldn't be that hard.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Beast_Lord_Armor

Good luck hunting,

-Og