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Hear hear! And on the flip side, I hope I got an uprate for having no less than eleven floating alla links in a single post. : )

Now that you mention it, you do deserve something for that. Rate ups all around! Except those who linked to wowhead, of course. You know who you are.

Lighten up, Francis. (that's from 'Stripes' for you youngins) It was a friendly albeit admittedly somewhat sharp-edged reminder that it is better/preferred to link to items here at Alla for our benefit because of the popup display, and because it supports the site/forum that you like enough to use. If you don't care, dont, but don't get all defensive and snippy because about that WE don't care. And if you want to keep linking to wowhead items just expect increasing amounts of grief that detract people from your very high quality posts as more people get more used to seeing/expecting Alla links instead of Wowhead links.

Back on topic because I can't stand subthreads that go ENTIRELY askew, I'd rather have Cloak of Blade turning than Slikk's Cloak too. When I said above that it wouldn't be replaced I guess I meant that under normal circumstances Slikk's Cloak wouldn't need to be replaced. I just meant that as a comment that it's a decent way to spend some badges. What do I know, I still have a total scrub cloak.

change some of your t4 by pvp gear. enchant your gear with some resillience. use some resilience/def gem. there you go.
really, I never ever had any dificult on been uncritable. Now I have t4 helm, merciless shoulder, vengefull chest, badge wrist, necklace of the deep, badge hand, natural something belt, t5 leg, 2 kara rings (rep and the other one), kael trinket and moroes trinket, earthwarden and idol of terror.
right now, im so high on uncrit, that I changed some of the enchants to dps enchants so I can have more threat.
Been uncrit as bear shouldnt be a problem. Actually, you even shouldnt be worried.

I'd be reluctant to break up the 4pcT4 bonus for any glad gear less then vengeful or brutal, and those don't exactly drop out of trees... Otherwise, those look like they would be a pretty big upgrade, actually... I would be TOTALLY unwilling to give up the 2pcT4 and MASSIVE survivability upgrade of 2pcT5 combo down the line tho, so that would put me in the exact same situation that I am in now.

Y'know, I'll really have to think about getting the veng or brutal chestpiece anyways for pure dps/trash tanking purposes. A high dps piece with a socket bonus that I could actually use while not having to fight over drops sounds tasty, IF I can get the rating for them.

Edited, Jul 19th 2008 11:12pm by scrubmonkey

Let's look at it a different way: Even without the 4-pc bonus, the S2 pieces are a sidegrade at best, and a downgrade at worst depending on the piece; I generally lose out on every stat except stamina. The 4-piece bonus just puts it over the top. The only reason I would consider S3/S4 is for the armor pen, which benifits my role as an OT.

Again, I've never suggested that the way I went about it is the ONLY way to do it, I'm simply demonstrating how I did it. In my build, Cloak of Blade Turning happens to be an important piece of gear to keep me from having to gem for crit immunity. Also, since I'm already crit immune now, I'm not worried about my current gear. It's the next level of progression that I'm worried about.

BTW, I thought that the set bonus for the glad gear didn't stack between season sets. Are you getting the +35 res from the 2-pc? If not, it would benifit you to get matching pieces for the bonus, it would mean that you wouldn't need to gem/enchant for crit immunity at ALL.



I'm guessing you've never used a cancelform macro? It allows you to instantly shift out of form, use a health pot, and shift back into bear between a boss's attacks. It takes a bit of skill to use correctly w/o eating an attack (and likely wiping the raid), but it's a pretty good increase in survivability when used properly.

The 2-pc T5 bonus USED to be useless before they changed nurturing instinct. Now, it's a bigger heal then a pot with a hot at the end without needing to wait for pot cooldown. How could I pass that up, especially if it leaves me with better PvE stats then if I went with glad pieces?

2-pc T4 is even more irreplaceable.

Again, Blizz is throwing bear druids so much easy gear at the end of TBC that it is EASY to gear a druid at our level, to the point where we have the option of skipping entire stages of progression... Due to the way we stack crit immunity and how we scale with our early gear, it's hard to gear incorrectly. It's only at T5 and beyond where it seems to go back to being tricky.

Edited, Jul 26th 2008 2:36pm by scrubmonkey

Good luck trying to insta-shift using a spell in between. That's what i was talking about. Reread please.

The instant cast regrowth is fantastic. It is the 1.5 secs afterwards that you have to wait before shifting back to bear form that will cause you a little trouble :)

Pots & healthstones don't cause a global cooldown so they can be used and you are instantly back in bear form - spells are a whole different matter.