im working on a 2v1 arena video.... very sketchy ******** stuff... but **** it its for the lolz
granted im doing skirmish 2v1 (but im letting them know ahead of time all my intentions; if they horde they know whats gonna happen) but i need some input from yall
-would it be better to show tougher 2v1s that i dont always win, or me just trouncin ****, or a mixy mixy (more entertainment vid then a serious pvp thing, keep in mind)
-whats the best way to tackle warrior/paladin? its the only setup i really have no damn clue about.... if you really cant think of nothin thats all good, just anything would be helpful
ill post up what i get as i get it... its ****** serious lolz though
shaman + warlock getting their **** packed on because im tricky in a 2v1 lol, theres a lot of amusements ^_^
(wish i could do BGs though, since i got some serious hotness potions lol)
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granted im doing skirmish 2v1 (but im letting them know ahead of time all my intentions; if they horde they know whats gonna happen)
You realize that regardless of faction, /say and /me cannot be understood by the opposing team, right?
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-would it be better to show tougher 2v1s that i dont always win, or me just trouncin sh*t, or a mixy mixy (more entertainment vid then a serious pvp thing, keep in mind)
Depends on what you want to do... If you manage to get a tough team of 2 players to near death I suppose you can be proud of your achievement.
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-whats the best way to tackle warrior/paladin? its the only setup i really have no damn clue about.... if you really cant think of nothin thats all good, just anything would be helpful
Alone? That sounds impossible to me... My suggestion is to DPS the paladin into using his bubble, then restealthing and killing him, then grabbing the warrior... But I don't think you're ever going to succeed killing those.
I'd show a mix. Show a variety of kills.
Warrior/Paladin is next to impossible unless they're ******* awful. Only way you really have a prayer is if the paladin is ret.
Warrior/Paladin is next to impossible unless they're ******* awful. Only way you really have a prayer is if the paladin is ret.
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granted im doing skirmish 2v1 (but im letting them know ahead of time all my intentions; if they horde they know whats gonna happen)
You realize that regardless of faction, /say and /me cannot be understood by the opposing team, right?
granted im doing skirmish 2v1 (but im letting them know ahead of time all my intentions; if they horde they know whats gonna happen)
You realize that regardless of faction, /say and /me cannot be understood by the opposing team, right?
used to be able to talk to same faction in arena, when did that change?
and ya, i thought it was impossible war/pal lol
ill keep workin on it, when im happy... ill throw it to my ****** editing program and youtube for the masses ^_^
Due to the abuse of players, it was changed a couple patches ago. Been a while...
Ok, here I'll appear as a total noob but whatever. How on earth can you win 1 v 2, unless the guys are total idots / undergeared?
I mean I've managed to win solo against rogue/hunter in arena but the hunter was at 25% life (I was at 25% also), killed him, restealthed, healed back to 85% life, then killed the rogue. There is no way I would have won that if both were at 100%.
And tbh, I don't see how a rogue could win against 2 players (whatever the class) with equal gear. With the trinket (and possibly WOTF), I don't think that a rogue has enough CC to keep 1 out of the fight until he kills the other one. If both are dps, they will kill the rogue before the rogues kills any of them. Not to mention that it'll be even worse if there's a healer.
But I'm apparently wrong, so please explain how one is supposed to do that. Would surely be helpful in arenas.
nostra
I mean I've managed to win solo against rogue/hunter in arena but the hunter was at 25% life (I was at 25% also), killed him, restealthed, healed back to 85% life, then killed the rogue. There is no way I would have won that if both were at 100%.
And tbh, I don't see how a rogue could win against 2 players (whatever the class) with equal gear. With the trinket (and possibly WOTF), I don't think that a rogue has enough CC to keep 1 out of the fight until he kills the other one. If both are dps, they will kill the rogue before the rogues kills any of them. Not to mention that it'll be even worse if there's a healer.
But I'm apparently wrong, so please explain how one is supposed to do that. Would surely be helpful in arenas.
nostra
against a few class setups i can do it equal skill and gear... but mostly its gonna be v 2 s1/s2 scrublys or people who dont know how their setup works yet
like i said, its for the entertainment factor (see: for the lulz) lol
but like... fire mages, frost mages kind of, combat rogue, ret paladins, not-over-geared dps shamans, destro locks, ua locks, bm hunters if i evade the BW properly....
theres plenty of things i can take down easy enough... just throw a kinda bad partner/pve geared player/someone who doesnt play team stuffs with the wrong class and its... well
not SIMPLE
but doable, easily
like a mage and a undergeared priest is doable, since i got WotF and enveloping shadows
theres a lot of fun to be had
like i said, its for the entertainment factor (see: for the lulz) lol
but like... fire mages, frost mages kind of, combat rogue, ret paladins, not-over-geared dps shamans, destro locks, ua locks, bm hunters if i evade the BW properly....
theres plenty of things i can take down easy enough... just throw a kinda bad partner/pve geared player/someone who doesnt play team stuffs with the wrong class and its... well
not SIMPLE
but doable, easily
like a mage and a undergeared priest is doable, since i got WotF and enveloping shadows
theres a lot of fun to be had
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And tbh, I don't see how a rogue could win against 2 players (whatever the class) with equal gear. With the trinket (and possibly WOTF), I don't think that a rogue has enough CC to keep 1 out of the fight until he kills the other one. If both are dps, they will kill the rogue before the rogues kills any of them. Not to mention that it'll be even worse if there's a healer.
For example; you (rogue) vs an enemy rogue and a (fire?) mage. Go all out on the mage while popping (double) evasion to keep the rogue of your back, then restealth, bandage and it's a 1on1 between 2 rogues.
Not saying it isn't hard, even impossible against 2 fairly skilled players, but it's possible... I think I could get a match like that done if the opposing team messes up some stuff and I had a bit of luck (IE the rogue not managing to kidney shot me trough my evasion).
Thing with rogues is that stealth is incredibly powerful here... We cannot run OOM, we can only run OOHP... Which can be fixed trough bandages. And we are one of the best classes when it comes to getting out of combat/escaping.
Mozared wrote:
For example; you (rogue) vs an enemy rogue and a (fire?) mage. Go all out on the mage while popping (double) evasion to keep the rogue of your back, then restealth, bandage and it's a 1on1 between 2 rogues.
Ok but if the guys aren't incedibly stupid, the mage is going to IB and/or the rogue is going to blind you (even with evasion up, it blind has 75% chances to land). My point is, taking down one guy from 100% to 0% AND not die in the process versus two opponents AND manage to heal back to 100% AND take down that second opponent requires a huge amount of luck... or lack of stuff/skill on their side.
But agreed, the video could be fun. I'll wait and see :)
nostra
generally, if its a fight ima win
i either
a: house the first guy to death, burn my blind and 1 vanish, and have a ton of hp left... then 1v1 with a set of cds (or more)
b: spend most of my stuff killing the first guy, just because his partner is some sort of glass cannon (bm hunter, fire mage, destro lock)... ill have little left cooldowns or hp... but the remaining opponent being out of power/tricks/just being THAT soloable... i can pull it out
still just tryin to get footage for now.. been busy :(
i either
a: house the first guy to death, burn my blind and 1 vanish, and have a ton of hp left... then 1v1 with a set of cds (or more)
b: spend most of my stuff killing the first guy, just because his partner is some sort of glass cannon (bm hunter, fire mage, destro lock)... ill have little left cooldowns or hp... but the remaining opponent being out of power/tricks/just being THAT soloable... i can pull it out
still just tryin to get footage for now.. been busy :(
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Mozared wrote:
For example; you (rogue) vs an enemy rogue and a (fire?) mage. Go all out on the mage while popping (double) evasion to keep the rogue of your back, then restealth, bandage and it's a 1on1 between 2 rogues.
Ok but if the guys aren't incedibly stupid, the mage is going to IB and/or the rogue is going to blind you (even with evasion up, it blind has 75% chances to land). My point is, taking down one guy from 100% to 0% AND not die in the process versus two opponents AND manage to heal back to 100% AND take down that second opponent requires a huge amount of luck... or lack of stuff/skill on their side.
But agreed, the video could be fun. I'll wait and see :)
nostra
Not to mention you can't dodge from behind, so popping evasion won't do much while the mage and rogue both pound on you. As long as they aren't on your same side that rogue will be beating hell out of you.
nostraaa wrote:
Ok, here I'll appear as a total noob but whatever. How on earth can you win 1 v 2, unless the guys are total idots / undergeared?
I mean I've managed to win solo against rogue/hunter in arena but the hunter was at 25% life (I was at 25% also), killed him, restealthed, healed back to 85% life, then killed the rogue. There is no way I would have won that if both were at 100%.
And tbh, I don't see how a rogue could win against 2 players (whatever the class) with equal gear. With the trinket (and possibly WOTF), I don't think that a rogue has enough CC to keep 1 out of the fight until he kills the other one. If both are dps, they will kill the rogue before the rogues kills any of them. Not to mention that it'll be even worse if there's a healer.
But I'm apparently wrong, so please explain how one is supposed to do that. Would surely be helpful in arenas.
nostra
I mean I've managed to win solo against rogue/hunter in arena but the hunter was at 25% life (I was at 25% also), killed him, restealthed, healed back to 85% life, then killed the rogue. There is no way I would have won that if both were at 100%.
And tbh, I don't see how a rogue could win against 2 players (whatever the class) with equal gear. With the trinket (and possibly WOTF), I don't think that a rogue has enough CC to keep 1 out of the fight until he kills the other one. If both are dps, they will kill the rogue before the rogues kills any of them. Not to mention that it'll be even worse if there's a healer.
But I'm apparently wrong, so please explain how one is supposed to do that. Would surely be helpful in arenas.
nostra
It's not about equal gear. When I climbed 1320-1600 doing 1v2s, the people had nowhere near the gear I did. I basically had full s3 versus their 1-2 pc s3, maybe.
With that big of a gear difference and people not knowing how to CC properly or LOS, it's pretty easy to do 1v2s at the lower brackets.
Not at the beginning of a season, though. Once you get to like 1600 you're going up against some decent Rival teams, then when you get to 1680 or so you'll start getting all Glad teams.
At least in Vengeance.
ya, well im doing skirmish (for now, might just try to make a team for 1v2 but gotta see how i do; if this goes well though... lol)... so its mainly people testing their team before they lose rating for their mistakes
or trying out people who only got s2 stuffs
the gear thing isnt gonna be a huge edge for me.. since im 4/5 s3, s2 shoulders, s2 weapons, and grull-level dps epics if it isnt a s3 filler
so cha, but lolz are to be had ^_^
or trying out people who only got s2 stuffs
the gear thing isnt gonna be a huge edge for me.. since im 4/5 s3, s2 shoulders, s2 weapons, and grull-level dps epics if it isnt a s3 filler
so cha, but lolz are to be had ^_^
mongoosexcore wrote:
ya, well im doing skirmish (for now, might just try to make a team for 1v2 but gotta see how i do; if this goes well though... lol)... so its mainly people testing their team before they lose rating for their mistakes
or trying out people who only got s2 stuffs
the gear thing isnt gonna be a huge edge for me.. since im 4/5 s3, s2 shoulders, s2 weapons, and grull-level dps epics if it isnt a s3 filler
so cha, but lolz are to be had ^_^
or trying out people who only got s2 stuffs
the gear thing isnt gonna be a huge edge for me.. since im 4/5 s3, s2 shoulders, s2 weapons, and grull-level dps epics if it isnt a s3 filler
so cha, but lolz are to be had ^_^
Yeah, it'd not be possible to solo at the 1600 or even 1500 rating bracket now while we're still seeing spread for this season.
mongoosexcore wrote:
ya, well im doing skirmish (for now, might just try to make a team for 1v2 but gotta see how i do; if this goes well though... lol)
I tried doing skirmish alone in 2v2 and i got grouped with a druid from another server. How do you group alone in skirmish ? Is it random luck ?
Edited, Jul 9th 2008 11:21am by samperor
samperor wrote:
mongoosexcore wrote:
ya, well im doing skirmish (for now, might just try to make a team for 1v2 but gotta see how i do; if this goes well though... lol)
I tried doing skirmish alone in 2v2 and i got grouped with a druid from another server. How do you group alone in skirmish ? Is it random luck ?
Edited, Jul 9th 2008 11:21am by samperor
Queue with a friend, then have them join and drop out.
ofc, silly me. Thanks.
when i used to mess around in 2v1 there was this War Paladin team I kept beating but they were awful. I would Sap the warrior and just burn the Pali down to his bubble and vanish, then CC the warrior again and kill the Pali.
That's exactly the strategy me and my buddy (rogue as well) use on any team with a paladin (unless his partner is a mage, we can usually get him down by throwing the paladin a kick when he's doing his critical heal). It's damn hard but probably the only thing that works.
Edited, Jul 9th 2008 7:57pm by Mozared
Edited, Jul 9th 2008 7:57pm by Mozared
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