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#1 Jul 02 2008 at 9:17 PM Rating: Decent
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I have read Druid 101, as well as the Druid tanking guide. 101 states that Agi is the most important stat for Bear tank, yet the tanking guide states Str for threat production to maintain hate.

I am a new lvl 40 Druid, that now has Dire bear form :). Should I stack Agi or Str for my tanking setup. I understand that Str is important for my Cat(DPS) form, but what is more important for Bear(Tank).

Any help ing this matter will be welcome, THX.
#2 Jul 02 2008 at 11:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Edited, Aug 26th 2008 11:29pm by kawainui
#3 Jul 03 2008 at 12:02 AM Rating: Good
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QFT

Stack stam til you have a crapton of HP, then stack agility for dodge and crit. Then work out a bit and take some 'roids to increase threat-per-second. Threat shouldn't be a problem unless your group outgears you or doesn't follow the kill order.
#4 Jul 03 2008 at 12:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Thx JeeBar, that is what I was looking for. Sry if I did not explain the question better. I know that Def and stam are important, just could not figure out if Agi or Str was next.
#5 Jul 03 2008 at 7:25 AM Rating: Good
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I'm not sure about the need for and value of defense rating as you level. I know at 70 achieving 415 defense (or supplemented with resilience) is mandatory and mission critical and really important and stuff.

Can somebody weigh in on the importance of defense rating as you level? Wowwiki's defense page gives all the numbers and some macros, but never addresses the subject per se. Seems likeit'd be really smart to have enough defense to eliminate crits from mobs a few levels higher than you for instance purposes and especially bosses, just like at 70. I could try to do some math, but am at work and...oh yeah...hate doing math. That's why I use the clever/complex macro on that page. : )


Edited, Jul 3rd 2008 8:26am by JeeBar
#6 Jul 03 2008 at 10:07 AM Rating: Good
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Edited, Aug 26th 2008 11:29pm by kawainui
#7 Jul 03 2008 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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I love that macro, Kawai. With my ridiculous combo of 418 def and 178 resilience (too much, I know, but I'm not not gemmed or enchanted for either, it's my combo of heavy clefty set + pvp pieces) it returns a sick number like -4.6 when all you need is 0 to be uncrittable.

Kudos for trying to do the math...I get a headache just looking at OTHER people doing math, so I really just wonder if leveling ferals need to pay attention to defense rating. I know I didn't and I seemed to do just fine.
#8 Jul 03 2008 at 2:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Edited, Aug 26th 2008 11:29pm by kawainui
#9 Jul 03 2008 at 4:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Thank you both for the lesson in Def.

I am only level 40, yet I have a Sentinel Cap of Defence(+15 Def Rate) and Ardent Custodian(+7 Def Rate) that give me a total of +22 Def Rate at level 40 which I think should be pretty good for my lvl. I also hate math lol

I will stack Stam and Agi and try my luck at tanking.

I find that many people forget that this is only a game that we play for fun, and that I at least want to be a geared correctly to try and tank.

Thx for all your imput.
#10 Jul 04 2008 at 6:35 AM Rating: Good
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And druid guide anywhere that says to stack strength for anything is usually wrong. The only reason to get +Str is if the alternative is AP. Str is affected by Blessing of Kings, AP isn't.

That being said, at low levels, you want "of the monkey", "of stamina", and "of the bear" for tanking. "Tiger" and "Monkey" for kitty. Once you get to outlands, you can get "of the Beast" and "of the Bandit".
#11 Jul 04 2008 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
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Also keep in mind solohunter, that you have to take into account the natural threat boost that being in bear form gives you. All your attacks have extra threat, so even though it may seem as if you aren't hitting very hard, your threat should still be pretty good due to that boost.

As you level you'll definitely want to look for lots of stam

At 70 the formula doesn't change. All Druid tanks start out getting enough def and resil to hit uncrittable, then gemming stam to kara/heroic stats, then gemming/enchanting agility to get their dodge up to that nice 30% starter mark.

If you see a tank running around with Strength gems, then they just aren't tanking right because I don't have a single one and I can easily push 1100-1200 tps on omen on single target pulls. You'll get a crapton of AP also from endgame staves which will help you further with your damage/threat generation.

There are a few nice stickies around about tank threat multipliers if you like to look at the numbers. Me, I just took a look and took their word for it. It's hard to pull off me, so it must be true right? :-)



Edit: Tank = Druid tank

Edited, Jul 4th 2008 1:09pm by Galenmoon
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