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#1 Jun 30 2008 at 5:02 PM Rating: Decent
My druid is almost 69. I really need some opinions on where to spend my last three talent points. Any advice would be greatly appreciated from my fellow druids !!
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shattered+Hand&n=Bloond

Thanks

Joel

Edited due to brain fart

Edited, Jun 30th 2008 9:29pm by jlank
#2 Jun 30 2008 at 5:24 PM Rating: Good
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Congratulations. It would kinda help to know what you've spent your points on so far. ; )
#3 Jun 30 2008 at 6:36 PM Rating: Good
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Ok, my thoughts:

Drop the 5 points in Feral Aggression. They are totally wasted points, Demo Roar and FB aren't your bread and butter, but less cost to Mangle and swipe really, really help, so pick up the 5 points in Ferocity instead. Nature's Focus points are also completely useless to a feral druid. 5/5 in Naturalist gives you 10% more damage in cat form, and 10% more aggro in bear form. Other than that, maybe move 1 point from Natural Shapeshifter over to Primal Tenacity, but that's really up to you.

Edited, Jun 30th 2008 10:38pm by xschuhx
#4 Jun 30 2008 at 8:00 PM Rating: Good
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Agreed. You'd asked what to do with the points you have left, but you've got some holes/flaws in the lowest tier talents that should be fixed.

Drop 5/5 for Feral Agression for 5/5 Ferocity. Just a much much better talent.

Find a way to get 5/5 Naturalist. 10% more damage, ever single physical attack, is huge. I don't think it adds up quite as simply as "10% more aggro in bear form" because there's all kinds of threat modifiers to the form itself, from Feral Instinct talent, and built in to different attacks, but 10% more damage definitely equates to more threat. Might even be more than 10%, I dunno.

Natural Shapeshifter is a good talent if you PvP a lot or do a lot of shift-intensive work in instances like off-tanking, otherwise it's not that valuable. So if you don't OT or PvP a lot, get your 5 Naturalist points straight from that second tier of the resto tree. If you really want Natural Shapeshifter, consider taking your Naturalist points out of Primal Tenacity.
#5 Jul 01 2008 at 4:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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What do you do? Tank? Solo? PVP? The "optional" talents tend to be Thick Hide, Intensity, and Primal Tenacity (and now, Nurturing Instinct as well), depending on your playstyle.

You've gotten some good advice already. I'll just add, please fill in your Feral Instinct right now. I can't even bear to look at that two.

Also, I salute the fortitude of someone who's got 3 talent points to spend at 69. That means you didn't spend the last two. I am so OCD, I will open my talent window in combat if necessary in order to spend the point at the exact second I level.


Edited, Jul 1st 2008 8:12am by teacake
#6 Jul 01 2008 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Edited, Aug 26th 2008 11:33pm by kawainui
#7 Jul 02 2008 at 11:11 AM Rating: Decent
Thanks for all your help folks!! Your suggestions made a world of difference in my dps.

Thanks
Joel
#8 Jul 02 2008 at 11:43 AM Rating: Good
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I'm late to the party and may have misread your armory profile but...did I see right that you have one point in Natural Shapeshifter and none in Omen of Clarity?

Omen of Clarity may be the best talent available for a feral outside of mangle. Get it now. Watch your dps soar. It's a free attack. It's godly. It's one point. Do it now.

#9 Jul 02 2008 at 12:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Edited, Aug 26th 2008 11:33pm by kawainui
#10 Jul 02 2008 at 5:14 PM Rating: Decent
Will respec for omen of clarity. One question how do you know when it affects your dps??

Thanks
Joel
#11 Jul 02 2008 at 5:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Edited, Aug 26th 2008 11:33pm by kawainui
#12 Jul 07 2008 at 7:23 AM Rating: Good
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Look for that icon that Kawainu linked to appearing on the upper right corner of your screen beneath your buffs. There used to be a sound associated with it but they got rid of that in a prior patch.

Normally I don't watch for it, I just spam my attacks and when I get an extra one off I say a silent thanks to OOC. Only time I watch for it is while doing opening pounce to get an extra shred off, or if it's a fairly relaxed tanking session and I can pay attention to whether it comes up -- free maul (an attack which you should avoid if rage-starved since it normally drains rage).

Edit: There's a good discussion below on this subject, which indicates to me that I need to stop mauling when ooc proccs:

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/class.html?wclass=6;mid=1215050006174396409;num=17;page=1

Edited, Jul 7th 2008 1:49pm by tuskerdu
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