Hello everyone. I need a little help. My pet reached level 42. But can't teach him anything cause I'm out of training points. This is what I currently have on him:
Claw- Rank 4
Natural Armor- Rank 7
Greater Stamina- Rank 6
Cobra Reflexes
Growl- Rank 5 but doesn't require training points.
Dash- Rank 1
And it leaves me with 20TP. Can't learn claw rank 5. Can't learn Greater Stamina Rank 7. I don't have any resistances on him nor avoidance. Just what it typed up above. Don't know if I'm doing something wrong or not. Thanks for the help and for those whom reply.
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You will have left over training points while you are leveling. Actually I'm pretty sure I have a left over training point at 70. You can't maximize everything and the point expenditure varies depending on the pet build. You will have to level him some more to open up additional training points. It looks like you are going for a tank build. Just bear in mind that you will never be able to maximize armor, stamina, and resistances. You will have to pick and choose.
Use a pet talent calculator to figure out the build for your pet. Petopia has one if I'm not mistaken.
Use a pet talent calculator to figure out the build for your pet. Petopia has one if I'm not mistaken.
You only get so many pet training points. You have to decide which skills you want most. You can't have everything.
If you decide to change his skills, you can take him to any pet trainer and wipe his skills. But beware that this costs gold and the price goes up every time. Petopia has more info on this topic at the link below.
http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/articles/stats_main.php
If you decide to change his skills, you can take him to any pet trainer and wipe his skills. But beware that this costs gold and the price goes up every time. Petopia has more info on this topic at the link below.
http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/articles/stats_main.php
It only costs 10s, and resets quite often.
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Posted: Jun 27 2008 at 11:14 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I forgot to mention a couple of things. Sorry really ill today but wow must live on. I'm looking for a good damaging pet that can take a licken and keep on tickin. I have played with the calculator but guess I just don't have what i'm lookin for. I'm a solo hunter. Want my pet to be able to dish it and take it. Thanks everyone. And yes its 10s then goes up from there and resets every few days. Have respecced him before to see if I could squeeze any odditional training points out of him. Wanting to be able to use claw and dash as well.
Hmmmmm...somehow we went from a training point question to the standard "what's the best pet" thing. Tricky Souliken.
I'm pretty sure the sticky says that there is no best pet. It really wasn't lying. Any pet with the right skills can do the things you want. Keep growl trained up and you will be fine until you start getting good level 70 gear which could cause your dps to outpace your pet's threat generation. There are slight dps advantages to raptors, ravagers, and cats if you are a math junkie.
So...Look at Petopia and find a pet with the skills you desire. Make sure you find one you like looking at...I went with a wolf.
I'm pretty sure the sticky says that there is no best pet. It really wasn't lying. Any pet with the right skills can do the things you want. Keep growl trained up and you will be fine until you start getting good level 70 gear which could cause your dps to outpace your pet's threat generation. There are slight dps advantages to raptors, ravagers, and cats if you are a math junkie.
So...Look at Petopia and find a pet with the skills you desire. Make sure you find one you like looking at...I went with a wolf.
I never intented for it to go to what is the best pet. Just tamed King Bangalash. What I was wondering for soloing purposed what skills do I need to keep up on besides growl and other's I don't have to worry about. I don't have any resistances. Was trying to make my pet very strong but I guess I can't learn both Greater Stamina and Armor. Maybe a mix between them.Wasn't asking about pets. I'm wanting my pet to be able to kill quick and be able to take the hits. Guess I was asking for help on training points.
Stamina = more health, which means he'll survive through more hits whether they be melee or magic.
Armor = more damage reduction, meaning less damage taken per hit. Pretty sure its only for physical attacks, although I forget after being away from the game from so long.
Better gore/claw/other aggro building abilities = more threat build-up from additional damage(or in the case of screech, a debuff that grants aggro.
For my playstyle, I went all into aggro building abilities(plus cobra reflexes) and any stamina I could get, with leftovers into armor. Casters hurt your pet quite a bit, but they are pretty easy to take down already, so no worries.
Oh, and if in doubt, mend pet. WTF do you need survivability for?
Armor = more damage reduction, meaning less damage taken per hit. Pretty sure its only for physical attacks, although I forget after being away from the game from so long.
Better gore/claw/other aggro building abilities = more threat build-up from additional damage(or in the case of screech, a debuff that grants aggro.
For my playstyle, I went all into aggro building abilities(plus cobra reflexes) and any stamina I could get, with leftovers into armor. Casters hurt your pet quite a bit, but they are pretty easy to take down already, so no worries.
Oh, and if in doubt, mend pet. WTF do you need survivability for?
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Posted: Jul 01 2008 at 8:00 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok this is starting to annoy me. I'm going to listen to you all and only you. Other hunters are telling me for solo play spec my pet with highest armour and low stam with upgraded dash and claw. But there are others telling me to spec with highest ranked stamina and no armor at all. My head is gonna pop. Looked on petopia but no answers for the solo hunter. So I'm looking to you all for aid.
At level 70 your pet will have a maximum of 350 training points
pet level x (pet loyalty - 1) = Total Training points 70 x (6 - 1) = 350
50% points in Stamina
25% points in Natural Armor
25% in Fire/nature/Shadow/Arcane Resistance
Modify the % as you see fit.
Put most of the points in Stamina. Points in Armor don't seem to actually raise the Pet's Armor all that much.
If you don't put points in fire/nature/ETC then remember to take out the caster first.
the hunters telling you to go all stamina and low armor are for raids and instances as your pet shouldn't take direct damage most of the time.
While I was leveling, I tried to keep both stamina and armor up as high as I could. In the beginning this was simple but as I got into the higher levels I had to use some judgement. A little bit of both is a great way to level yourself and your pet should do just find especially with an occasional mend pet thrown onto him.
What you currently have is perfectly fine although keep an eye out for higher rank claw. Personally, I would maxed out claw and bite on my cat, cobra reflexes and then the rest went into stamina and armor about equal ranks. I didn't even get dash until I hit level 70 and tamed for a rank 3 dash. Though others may tell you that dash is needed as they are about to /wrist waiting for their slow pet to make it to the mob. I didn't notice it being that bad, but then again, now that I have dash I don't ever want to go back.
In the end, it is all up to you and for solo leveling you are doing just fine. Don't worry about what others say, if it works for you then you're good to go. If not, then respec as it is very cheap.
While I was leveling, I tried to keep both stamina and armor up as high as I could. In the beginning this was simple but as I got into the higher levels I had to use some judgement. A little bit of both is a great way to level yourself and your pet should do just find especially with an occasional mend pet thrown onto him.
What you currently have is perfectly fine although keep an eye out for higher rank claw. Personally, I would maxed out claw and bite on my cat, cobra reflexes and then the rest went into stamina and armor about equal ranks. I didn't even get dash until I hit level 70 and tamed for a rank 3 dash. Though others may tell you that dash is needed as they are about to /wrist waiting for their slow pet to make it to the mob. I didn't notice it being that bad, but then again, now that I have dash I don't ever want to go back.
In the end, it is all up to you and for solo leveling you are doing just fine. Don't worry about what others say, if it works for you then you're good to go. If not, then respec as it is very cheap.
You all are awsome. No I don't have any of the fir/shad/nat resistances. And I've tames King Bangalash for claw 6 and dash 2. Wich saves me some training points....or does it? o.O anyways. I'm gonna respec my pet with more stam cause your right the armor doesn't go up that much. I do take out casters first cause there easy to drop at close range. Any other's I just freeze trap one and have the pet attack the other then turn him back to the caster.
Pretty easy. Just the speccing is what I'm trying to learn. Again I thank you and now its time to play.
Pretty easy. Just the speccing is what I'm trying to learn. Again I thank you and now its time to play.
What I did with my pets was level 1 of all resistances, cobra reflexes, growl, max rank bite and claw (rank 9) for cat and add gore for ravager. Dash rank 3 for both and I believe I have rank 6 of both stamina and armor. My pets almost never die.
I also have stealth for my cat for PvP purposes. I so wish I could have more than 4 skills on the pet bar at once.
I also have stealth for my cat for PvP purposes. I so wish I could have more than 4 skills on the pet bar at once.
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I also have stealth for my cat for PvP purposes. I so wish I could have more than 4 skills on the pet bar at once.
you can get a addon to add more action bars. OR you can just make macros, like binding shadowmeld and prowl to the same command.
And a pet with skills learnt upon taming are not going to be points saved. Just wanted to point it out to OP.
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I also have stealth for my cat for PvP purposes. I so wish I could have more than 4 skills on the pet bar at once.
you can get a addon to add more action bars. OR you can just make macros, like binding shadowmeld and prowl to the same command.
And a pet with skills learnt upon taming are not going to be points saved. Just wanted to point it out to OP.
If I remember correctly, you can only learn 4 skills at once, whether you have them on the bar or not. I have prowl, bite, claw and dash on my cat for PvP, but I couldn't teach it Growl. I just recall that it told me that my pet can't learn that many skills.
Edited, Jul 1st 2008 4:56pm by ProjectMidnight
Jup, pets cant learn more than 4 active skills.
Ok so I've respecced my pet which only cost me 10s. Wish it was that way for all respecs huh o.o! I gave him greater stamina rank 7. And took his armor down to rank 4. He still have 3600 armor. When rank 7 armor was on he had 3800. Would prowl be worth getting...well maybe not since I don't pvp. Wanna save as many tp's as possible for later levels. :D
Actually Growl, Claw and Dash is all you really need to train for in a PvE world. Bite was nerfed some time ago and claw is the damage/focus dump skill now. I assume you have a Cat or another Pet that can learn Claw/Dash.
Cobra Reflexes reduces Pet DPS but increases Pet attack speed which, in the long run, may increase overall DPS. To me it seem sorta iffy.
Level 50/70 casters will whack you pretty good. I like some fire/nature/shadow resistance thrown in.
Nobic wrote:
Cobra Reflexes reduces Pet DPS but increases Pet attack speed which, in the long run, may increase overall DPS. To me it seem sorta iffy.
Cobra reflexes reduces your damage/attack but increases your pets DPS. Just wanted to clear that up so someone who reads this doesn't get confused.
From Petopia. Just to clear up any confusion.
Cobra Reflexes
Summary: Attack speed increased by 30%, but damage done is reduced.
* Passive
* Can be learned by: All pet families.
Notes:
Cobra Reflexes is a passive skill that causes your pet to attack faster all the time, so that it makes more attacks per second. In this way Cobra Reflexes is fairly similar to the hunter talent Serpent's Swiftness. The Frenzy talent also increases attack speed, but not all the time -- Frenzy is triggered by critical hits. (And indeed all of these effects can stack together to make yor pet attack very, very quickly!)
Incidentally, the description of Cobra Reflexes is somewhat misleading. Although training your pet in this passive skill does somewhat reduce your pet's damage per hit, the increase in attack speed more than makes up for the change -- so your pet will actually do more DPS with Cobra Reflexes than without it.
For most hunters, Cobra Reflexes is definitely recommended.
Yes, the damage per attack is less however the pets dps increases from cobra reflexes.
With about 11% to be exact.
With about 11% to be exact.
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I'd like to point out it usually is a good idea to purchase extra stable slots to give you some play with what types you can work with (I'll bet some of the more experienced hunter's just thought to themselves "Well, Duh!!"). Anyway, this gives you a lot of flex in training points you can throw on a pet as well. You can put together one pet that has wicked dps abilities and fewer points in armor and resists. Then another with great health and armor, and just a few resists with any extra abilities you deem essential to a raw tanking pet (i.e. Turtle Shell Shield). You could also throw together a high resistance pet to deal with known caster heavy zones (and everything else in stamina) to take what casters dish out while you quickly kill them (bear or gorilla may not be a bad plan, with high base health as a pet and only a few abilities worth having). I'd still shoot for cobra reflexes on everything because that extra dps helps keep your pew pew from making big bad monster angry. If you choose not to upgrade your growls I suggest you just reroll another class.
What I may end up doing is keeping my cat as a solo spec then when I'm 70 gonna respec him for raiding and go pick up say a ravager or a raptor for pve. I may add prowl to my current pet for bg's. Right now I'm maxing out stamina with little armour and it seems to be working for me while keeping up on growl(wich costs no training points) and claw. I havn't taken bite cause well I think it may be a waste of points but in the end I may be wrong.
I raid with my ravager, cause he puts out more dps than my cat does. I am looking at getting a wind serpent though for the lighting breath. That looks really cool, and I hear it is good for high end raids.
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In the end I don't think you're doing anything wrong. You left off resistances and you didn't mesh any conflicting abilities that in the end only burn more of your pet's focus (i.e Bite and Claw, Prowl and Dash). You'll just want to cater your pet in the direction you feel you want it to go. If dps is the goal, keep seeking out those higher level claws and dash on the mobs out there and train him when the pet is ready (via level and training points). If survivability is your goal, just take the hit in those higher abilities and put points in stam and armor.
Edited, Jul 9th 2008 9:36pm by RufusDog
Edited, Jul 9th 2008 9:36pm by RufusDog
You want the highest growl and claw abilities regardless. If you don't do this, you'll start pulling aggro off your pet.
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