Retribution Palidans and weapons!Follow

You can keep a shield and weapon for longer fights, such as elite fights or group quests that you wish to attempt to solo. Aside from that, you're 2-hander is really going to be the best source of your damage. When you get Seal of Command at 20, it is much more attuned to slow 2-handed damage than 1-handed. A lot of the other Retribution Talents are based on the assumption that you will be using 2-handed weapons.

No problem, thanks for reading the guide!

Well, unfortunately it's a little too fast for a goof 2-hander. You want to try to go for speeds at 3.6 or so to get the maximum benefit of SoC. You are 51? You should do the AV quest and get the Ice Barbed Spear. All you gotta do is win one, and you get a lvl 58 (Pre - TBC) quality weapon at lvl 51 for free.

Thank you CapnJack! Thank you tommy! I'll go try to pull that off today, and just toss the sword back on the AH. It'll make me a little bit of money, I'm sure.

Congrats, it will serve you well until you can get outlands gear, in which case you'll chuck it off into a ditch somewhere and grab one of the new greens, that blue sword off the AH, or the blue polearm from Ramps.

Ravager from the Armory wing of Scarlet Monastery would be much better then what you have right now.

X'caliboar from Razorfen Downs, though he is a rare spawn, so you can't really count on getting it.

Mograine's Might would be an upgrade for you, although it is certainly NOT optimal for a Ret Paladin. It's too fast, but again, it's still better then your current weapon. Scarlet Monastery, Cathedral wing.

If you can hold out until level 40, there are a couple drops in Uldaman that would be good for a Ret Paladin, and a third that would at least be better then your current weapon: The Rockpounder or Stoneslayer from Archaedas and Grimlok's Charge from Grimlok.

Then there are some good BoE weapons out there, but the odds of getting them to drop are certainly not in your favor, and if you were to see them on the AH they are most likely gonna cost an arm and a leg (minimum) because people buy them for their twinks. Pendulum of Doom comes to mind right away, but I certainly wouldn't spend the time/money to get it if I wasn't twinking.

It's too bad you're a bloody Horde Paladin. The Alliance quest chain to kill the 4 leaders in SM has a great 2H axe as a reward, but the Horde version of the quest doesn't have anything like it.

I am a level 54 Ret Paladin and i am also a Blacksmith. I have the pattern to make the Hammer of the Titans which I cannot use until level 58. Is it worth it to make myself a Hammer of the Titans, or will I get something immediately better once I hit outlands, thus making this too expensive to bother with since it will be obsolete a few levels after I make it? Or, would I be better off making one and then posting it on the AH for a RIDICULOUS amount of money and seeing if someone buys it?

Of secondary importance, I will be spending a fair amount of time doing BGs at 58 and 59 since it is almost impossible for the alliance to win on my server at the lower levels, but we seem to do really well in the 50-60 bracket and I need to build up my honor, so since I will be "stuck" at 58-59 for a while, would this be a good BG weapon?

Lastly, if I DO make it for myself, what enchant should I get on it? I don't want to spend a lot of gold for an enchant, but if there is a relatively cheap one out there that would be good for this weapon, I would appreciate any recommendations.

Thanks CapJack! I won't bother making it then. As far as honor grinding, on my server in the 50-60 bracket, Alliance almost always wins AV by 400-0 or 500-0, so I have done a few at lvl 54 and gotten like 450 bonus honor for each win (plus 50-100 honor for kills)... Since I don't have any toons that have made it to 70 yet, is 500 or so honor per AV worth my time? When the alliance wins (about 85% of the time), we somehow get the horde down to 0 reinforcements so fast that it only takes like 15 minutes for 500 honor... Is that decent or is it still better to wait until 70?

Excellent information again CapJack! I really appreciate it! Sorry to send the thread sideways from its original question... but the info was very valuable!

I agree, it is much more difficult then it has been. The reason though: leveling is much faster then it used to be and doing quests is the most efficient way to level. Also I think part of it is most people would rather find a 70 to run them through everything, even if it costs them money, then go through the hassle of PUG growing pains all over again.

Regardless though I wish you luck.

Oh I agree with you there. I have to laugh at all those people too. I was more meaning the ones who, as you alluded to, have guildmates, are alts, things like that. I know I haven't been in a PUG for anything lower then Ramparts with any of my alts for a long time now. I just get my gf or another friend to run me through any dungeons I need, then I do the same for them.

PUGs for any pre-Outlands dungeons have become ssssoooooo bad! Honestly, I don't remember people being so stupid when I was leveling my first or even second toon, but more and more those leveling dungeons you basically have to get someone to run you through because many PUGs will never get to a boss, much less kill it.

I could get into horror stories, but this is already off topic enough ^^