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#1 Jun 26 2008 at 3:00 AM Rating: Decent
I have a level 53 NE druid spec as feral. My question is could someone give me the correct opening sequence to KILL while in kitty form. I have read all the post and the stickiest. Everyone has a different opener. What is the best one? And I want to try my hand at tanking what is the best opener for that? If anyone could post a macro that would make life a little easier for an opener that would be greatly appreciated.
#2 Jun 26 2008 at 9:56 AM Rating: Default
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Well, there is no correct opener. It all depends on what you are doing at the time. For soloing:

Pounce
FFF
Mangle
Shred
Shred again if OOC procs
Rip at 4 combo points
Spam Mangle

Now, if you are in an instance the rotation is totally different. I'm sure I will be corrected on this, but I open with Ravage, then Mangle once, shred to 4 combo points, rip and repeat. Reapply Mangle every 12 sec to keep the debuff up. Cower if you need it and FFF when you are out of energy.

When you want to go and tank, it really depends on the number of mobs you will be tanking (and not having cc). If you will only be tanking one, and you have 30 or so rage, just pull with FFF. Less than 30-ish rage, I'll pull with moonfire. Tanking 2 targets, I'll moonfire the secondary target to have a little aggro to start off, shift to bear and then tank the primary. I always open with Mangle, Lacerate a ton, re-Mangle when the cooldown is up, and swipe if you can (more than one target, and no cc'd targets close). For three I can Wrath the secondary, starfire the tertiary and then normal rotation on the primary. 3 or more, I generally pull with Hurricane.

Really, it comes down to the experience level of your group. Does the dps start early on the primary target? Are you rage starved? Are you loosing some mobs to healing aggro because the healer starts too early?

http://www.wowwiki.com/Useful_macros/Druid has some macros, I'd point you in a better direction, but I rarely use macros...I've just memorized the buttons to push...8, 9, 2, 3, 3, 5 will get me the kitty opener described above (with the OOC proc)
#3 Jun 26 2008 at 10:04 AM Rating: Good
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You won't get a definitive answer on the "best" opener for tanking or killing. I can give you my opinion, for what it's worth.

At 53, you heave either Mangle or Omen of Clarity, possibly Brutal Impact. You might or might not have Furor and Shredding Attacks. You probably don't (and shouldn't) have Intensity. You won't have Lacerate until 66.

If you have at least 3/5 Furor, I would start by shifting to bear (until you get the 10 rage) and popping Enrage. Pull with Feral Faerie Fire once your rage ticks up close to 30. Mangle the main target, and either spam Swipe between Mangles (if you have more than one target) or hit Mangle every time it's off cooldown and Maul when you have more than 25-30 Rage.

For DPS, I would run up as close as you can get without getting aggro, stealth the last few yards, then Pounce, Mangle, FFF while you wait for energy, then Shred.

Edit: Unless you're on the verge of stealing aggro and sitting at 100 energy, don't Cower. The threat reduction is negligible for the energy cost, you're better off not using specials for a few seconds until the tank gets a bigger threat lead.

Edited, Jun 26th 2008 2:08pm by AstarintheDruid
#4 Jun 26 2008 at 10:24 AM Rating: Decent
Thanks so much this helps. I am deep in the fearl tree with mangle. My armory link is http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Medivh&n=Tilar. Forgive me but what is FFF?


Tilar
#5 Jun 26 2008 at 10:25 AM Rating: Decent
That link did not work try this http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Medivh&n=Tilar

Tilar
#6 Jun 26 2008 at 10:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Edited, Aug 26th 2008 11:49pm by kawainui
#7 Jun 26 2008 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
Thanks this forum is so much better then the hunter forum. Not 1 bad response. My new main is my DRUID. I have been taken by the dark side. DRUIDS rule. Seriously thanks.

Tilar
#8 Jun 26 2008 at 3:05 PM Rating: Good
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I'm a huge macro fan, but not for automating sequences of attacks. More for "if then" attacks. Everything I do in cat form, including all my openers, but except for my finishing moves, is done with two really simple macros:

Kill From Front
- Not-stealthed, combat or not: Mangle
- Stealthed: Pounce
- It also activates my on-use AP booster Crystalforged Trinket unless it's on cooldown, because without it automated I never use it enough.
/use Crystalforged Trinket 
/cast [stealth] Pounce; [nostealth] Mangle (Cat)(Rank3); 

Kill From Behind:
- Non-combat, non-stealthed: Prowl
- Non-combat, stealthed: Ravage
- Combat: Shred
/cast [nostealth,nocombat] Prowl, [stealth] Ravage; [nostealth,combat] Shred 


So if I'm in cat form I can stealth and open up a can of whoopass by hitting 2,1,-,1,2,2 (pounce, fff is -, mangle, shred, second shred with ooc proc...I actually thought we'd all agreed this was the optimal opener, oh well it's mine) and then when I'm in combat I just spam 1 from the front and 2 if I'm behind 'em.


In bear form for tanking the only macro I have is one where one click pops me to bear (or pops me BACK into bear for a powershift) and a second click (within 3 seconds) feral charges a hostile target if I have one. I don't have a macro for opening/pulling because 9 times out of 10 I just pull with feral faerie fire, and when I do want to open with magic I just Starfire one, switch targets Moonfire the next and pop to bear. Since you change targets castsequence doesn't work, at least not the way I know how to do it.

Edited, Jun 26th 2008 4:06pm by JeeBar

Edited, Jun 26th 2008 4:07pm by JeeBar
#9 Jun 26 2008 at 4:37 PM Rating: Default
I wish I wish I wish I was a DRUID. Maybe I should start a poll? What is your favorite opening move in kitty form?
What is your favorite opening move in kitty form?
Kill !!! :0 (%)
Bear form please:0 (%)
What is kitty form? :0 (%)
What is WOW? :0 (%)
Total:0
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