Hi there all
With the shortage of healers and profusion of tanks currently in our guild I've agreed to go healer. Now I'm not keen on healing constantly and since we are mostly in Kara we only need 3 healers for a few fights. with that in mind I am think of rolling a Restokin, being the crit chicken for trash and healing on bosses as needed.
Here is my proposed build
Linky
Which is my take on the Restokin. Have I made any glaring mistakes? Am I kidding myself, should I just go full resto and be a tree? We do have many healing druids in our guild for some reason. The odss are that at least some of the time I'll be rolling with 2 trees, so the aura wont be lost, but we do have the issue of lack of direct heals, so my build makes sense to me.
Last question, promise :)
As far as I know, for trees stats priority is
Healing -> Spirit -> Intellect -> MP5 -> Stam
Am I right in thinking that with my build Int and Spirit would swap places?
Thanks in advance for your comments.
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For trees Spirit is more important than Intelligence. Spirit increases their heals, which is important. And increases their mp5.
The only big problem with this build is that you're only using HT and missing out on HoTs, which are what a druid uses most. But it's OK for pinch healing on bosses as a big heals. Might be a tad risky but who knows.
The only big problem with this build is that you're only using HT and missing out on HoTs, which are what a druid uses most. But it's OK for pinch healing on bosses as a big heals. Might be a tad risky but who knows.
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The only suggestion I can make for your build is to take 3/3 in Improved Rejuvenation rather than 5/5 in Tranquil Spirit and just put the last 2 points wherever you want. Even as a restokin build you will still use HoTs quite frequently. You'll quickly find that HT is not the most effecient way to heal. Its far to slow to be a viable tank heal. A 15% increase to your Rejuvenation spell will be much more usefull.
Other than that your build is more-or-less the cookie cutter build.
And yes I would choose to stack intellect over spirit. Intellect will increase both mana regeneration and +heal/+spell damage. Spirit will only increase mana regeneration.
Other than that your build is more-or-less the cookie cutter build.
And yes I would choose to stack intellect over spirit. Intellect will increase both mana regeneration and +heal/+spell damage. Spirit will only increase mana regeneration.
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Lifebloom is a far better heal than HT is. HT takes far too long to cast, even with talents, for it to be effective in a raid environment. LB is also more mana efficient and grants more Healing per Second once stacked. ToL Form is worth nearly 150mp5 when using Lifeblooms, making it far better for regeneration than Dreamstate is. You also lose Imp FF, the Balance Druid's raid buff. Hybridizing in this matter makes you ineffective for healing and dpsing in comparison to a pure build. I would honestly suggest being cookie cutter Boomkin and wearing a healing set for boss fights than speccing this way.
Tree aura, unlike every other aura, stacks when there are multiple trees in a group.
Mp5 is far more valuable than Intellect for trees, by a mile.
No it does not. Spirit only affects Druid healing with the Priest's Divine Spirit buff.
8 Intellect will give you 2 Healing with 3/3 Lunar Guidance and it will increase your gain from !Spirit! by a very meager amount. 8 Spirit on the other hand would give you 4mp5, and you'll need alot of mp5 if you're throwing out 900 mana Hts. Spirit would still be better for healing as a Mookin.
With this said, I have never been Restokin as I dislike the idea that I'm not giving all that I can. I might be overvaluing pure builds with my personal feelings of min/max raiding. If you are still in Kara it likely wouldn't matter too much.
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I'll be rolling with 2 trees, so the aura wont be lost
Tree aura, unlike every other aura, stacks when there are multiple trees in a group.
dcushley wrote:
As far as I know, for trees stats priority is Healing -> Spirit -> Intellect -> MP5 -> Stam
Mp5 is far more valuable than Intellect for trees, by a mile.
MrEnglish wrote:
Spirit increases their heals
No it does not. Spirit only affects Druid healing with the Priest's Divine Spirit buff.
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And yes I would choose to stack intellect over spirit. Intellect will increase both mana regeneration and +heal/+spell damage.
8 Intellect will give you 2 Healing with 3/3 Lunar Guidance and it will increase your gain from !Spirit! by a very meager amount. 8 Spirit on the other hand would give you 4mp5, and you'll need alot of mp5 if you're throwing out 900 mana Hts. Spirit would still be better for healing as a Mookin.
With this said, I have never been Restokin as I dislike the idea that I'm not giving all that I can. I might be overvaluing pure builds with my personal feelings of min/max raiding. If you are still in Kara it likely wouldn't matter too much.
Aye it's the "getting away with it in Kara" that's attracting me to the build, once I move on (Leaf? Arf!) I'll probably become a real tree. Also am thinking about Lvelling Balance in WOTLK so a bit of practice would be nice.
Surely the idea of Healing touch being too slow is mitigated somewhat by cancel-casting and using Nature's swiftness if required?
Have taken some comments on bored and dumped Tranquil Spirit for Improved Rejuv and Empowered Touch (not sure if I should max out gift of Nature instead?)
Here's the new build Linky any further suggestions are very welcome and thanks for the hints so far.
Edited, Jun 26th 2008 8:57am by dcushley
Surely the idea of Healing touch being too slow is mitigated somewhat by cancel-casting and using Nature's swiftness if required?
Have taken some comments on bored and dumped Tranquil Spirit for Improved Rejuv and Empowered Touch (not sure if I should max out gift of Nature instead?)
Here's the new build Linky any further suggestions are very welcome and thanks for the hints so far.
Edited, Jun 26th 2008 8:57am by dcushley
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Hmmm OK to quick things:
Tree Buff
Shapeshift into the Tree of Life. While in this form you increase healing received by 25% of your total Spirit for all party members within 45 yards
Right from talent discription.
You got to be in the tanks group or the group you are healing for it to be usuful. and its all the time with or without buffs.
Second realy if you are only in kara, why the heck are you not just going full moonkin then a bit resto and wearing resto gear when needed for key boss fights?
you are a druid, you can heal and dps you dont have to be in moonkin for to do dps and you cab still pop out of moonkin to heal when things get hairy.
i mean yeah restokin is great if you always healing every boss fight, but sometime killing quickly is more needed then a back up hear.
your guild might benefit more from the moonkin in fights with more dmg and imp fiery fire.
But if your guild needs you as a resto kin so be it but do this take 1 point from Control of Nature ( imo a worthless talent blizzard needs to replace) and 1 poitn from Moonfury ( +2% dmg to your spells not gona help much ( 1000dmg = +20) and put two points into the Improved Faerie Fire. ( helping melee and ranged not miss with a 300-1k hit out ways the these abilities.
Also I would lose the point in Nature's Swiftness since realy youe hots are better and almost all instant. and it sounds like you are an off healer not a mantank healer so your hots are more important put that point into Improved fiery fire as well.
and lastly Empowered Touch take the 2 points and put it into Gift of Nature to max it out.
Again this is my opinion and I hope it helps.
Edited, Jun 26th 2008 12:09pm by Ivanjohn
Tree Buff
Shapeshift into the Tree of Life. While in this form you increase healing received by 25% of your total Spirit for all party members within 45 yards
Right from talent discription.
You got to be in the tanks group or the group you are healing for it to be usuful. and its all the time with or without buffs.
Second realy if you are only in kara, why the heck are you not just going full moonkin then a bit resto and wearing resto gear when needed for key boss fights?
you are a druid, you can heal and dps you dont have to be in moonkin for to do dps and you cab still pop out of moonkin to heal when things get hairy.
i mean yeah restokin is great if you always healing every boss fight, but sometime killing quickly is more needed then a back up hear.
your guild might benefit more from the moonkin in fights with more dmg and imp fiery fire.
But if your guild needs you as a resto kin so be it but do this take 1 point from Control of Nature ( imo a worthless talent blizzard needs to replace) and 1 poitn from Moonfury ( +2% dmg to your spells not gona help much ( 1000dmg = +20) and put two points into the Improved Faerie Fire. ( helping melee and ranged not miss with a 300-1k hit out ways the these abilities.
Also I would lose the point in Nature's Swiftness since realy youe hots are better and almost all instant. and it sounds like you are an off healer not a mantank healer so your hots are more important put that point into Improved fiery fire as well.
and lastly Empowered Touch take the 2 points and put it into Gift of Nature to max it out.
Again this is my opinion and I hope it helps.
Edited, Jun 26th 2008 12:09pm by Ivanjohn
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But if your guild needs you as a resto kin so be it but do this take 1 point from Control of Nature ( imo a worthless talent blizzard needs to replace) and 1 poitn from Moonfury ( +2% dmg to your spells not gona help much ( 1000dmg = +20) and put two points into the Improved Faerie Fire. ( helping melee and ranged not miss with a 300-1k hit out ways the these abilities.
Also I would lose the point in Nature's Swiftness since realy youe hots are better and almost all instant. and it sounds like you are an off healer not a mantank healer so your hots are more important put that point into Improved fiery fire as well.
and lastly Empowered Touch take the 2 points and put it into Gift of Nature to max it out.
Also I would lose the point in Nature's Swiftness since realy youe hots are better and almost all instant. and it sounds like you are an off healer not a mantank healer so your hots are more important put that point into Improved fiery fire as well.
and lastly Empowered Touch take the 2 points and put it into Gift of Nature to max it out.
Thanks for the reply but some of this is unworkable, some of the talents I've taken I agree are worthless, but I can't see anywhere better to put them, I can't just "Take points from control of nature" because I need them to get vengeance and everything above. The only alternatives are to put it in nature's grasp (not PVPing with this build) or brambles (which I think is pointless but I could be wrong? Even if I did do this it wouldn't free up points to go into IFF, the same is true of the single point moonfury, it's a crap place to spend one point but I need to put it somewhere to get the tier above. I'm not sure how you expect me to pull points out of the bottom tier talents and put them in the top?
As far as Natures swiftness and empowered tough goes, I think with this build you don't rely on your hots as much, and use Healing touch a lot, functioning like a slightly slow paladin basically. The other healers keep up the HoTs on the main tank and the raid and you spam Healing Touch on the main tank. That's the way I understand this build anyway. The empowered touch vs Gift of Nature I am not at all sure about. My main heal will be Halign Touch so the way I ahve it makes more sense, but more opinions would be valued.
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Yeah I see that. Sorry I roll as a boomkin And was going from that repspect and forgot to do the math.
Are you healing alot in battles? I guess thats the main question. if you are then your build is what it's going to be.
I got a way with being an off healer in kara being a full balance with a bit resto to use points and being in healing gear when needed.
Are you healing alot in battles? I guess thats the main question. if you are then your build is what it's going to be.
I got a way with being an off healer in kara being a full balance with a bit resto to use points and being in healing gear when needed.
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