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#1 Jun 24 2008 at 5:07 AM Rating: Default
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Is it me or is the new pre-raid(even post Kara) list S-2 and anything that can get you to the hit cap?
#2 Jun 24 2008 at 5:10 AM Rating: Good
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Pretty much yeah.
I'll have to check, but I'm afraid that for most spots S2 will simply be the best.
#3 Jun 24 2008 at 5:36 AM Rating: Default
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Aethien,
Should cut down on the questions quite a bit. On another note - do you actually like arena now? I see more and more arena references in your posts these days. How is the time investment?
Thanks
#4 Jun 24 2008 at 5:43 AM Rating: Good
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I never disliked arena.
I still dont like BG's though, and I think it's very messed up that the best pre-raidgear comes from endless PvP.
#5 Jun 24 2008 at 5:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Honestly it is going to make content alot easier as well. All the stamina on S2 and good stats should make anything but the most challenging heroics a breeze.

The other question - How much time a week for arena?
#6 Jun 24 2008 at 6:08 AM Rating: Decent
10 matches for each team and you're done for the week. So it's not much, you get your points on Tuesday.
#7 Jun 24 2008 at 6:43 AM Rating: Decent
Lets face it.Pvp gear some times its much better for t4 raids than even t4 gear.
Now you will be able to buy S4 hands with only 1000 ap.That means only 4 weeks and only 1 hour total spent.
Where can you find better gear for kara,ZA and gruul than pvp?especially for axe,hands,!
#8 Jun 24 2008 at 6:48 AM Rating: Decent
Dwing two Dagger of Bad Mojo with +20 agility on both is simply awesome.
#9 Jun 24 2008 at 6:56 AM Rating: Good
Indeed but are too dificult to get them.2 low drops and they belong first to melee classes than hunters!
PvP axe is still very easy to get.
#10 Jun 24 2008 at 9:05 AM Rating: Decent
Yes I agree with all the points you just mentioned Doro. To add to that statement, I use the Vengeful Gladiator's Waraxe. :P
#11 Jun 24 2008 at 9:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Steered the post here by accident, but it is really what I should have asked to begin with and just mentioned S2. The best things for me I think is the axe and shoulders(just can't get decent shoulders really, although BBW coughed up the gun this week :) Anyone want to talk where their badges are going? I was dead set on the bow and almost there, but with WSSR I think the legs of pursuit are pretty damn amazing, just reluctant to throw 100 badges down (I have never used one yet).
#12 Jun 24 2008 at 9:33 AM Rating: Decent
Get the bow and then get the leggings, that's what I plan on doing.
#13 Jun 24 2008 at 9:42 AM Rating: Decent
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You are probably right, I just have wanted this damn gun for so long it seems a shame to bank it after 1 week or so.
#14 Jun 24 2008 at 9:44 AM Rating: Decent
I mean, WSR is a great gun. Use it until you can get the dead parrot. I would keep my WSR in my bank just to know that I still have it.
#15 Jun 24 2008 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
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I've been playing with Cheeky's spreadsheet after I got over the fear of that huge spreadsheet, but the S2 stuff is very nice indeed.
#16 Jun 24 2008 at 12:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I can't get cheeky's to work, even in open office. Which is probably for the best, as who knows how long I would spend playing with the damn thing.
#17 Jun 24 2008 at 3:44 PM Rating: Decent
I can't get it to work either. It never wants to load my profile.
#18 Jun 24 2008 at 6:26 PM Rating: Decent
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dorogodess wrote:
Indeed but are too dificult to get them.2 low drops and they belong first to melee classes than hunters!
PvP axe is still very easy to get.

Don't be silly. Dagger of Bad Mojo is pretty much best in slot for a Hunter until T6. No one has priority over a best in slot drop.
#19 Jun 24 2008 at 10:12 PM Rating: Decent
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plus they're daggers, rogues dont use those.
#20 Jun 24 2008 at 10:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Kompera wrote:
dorogodess wrote:
Indeed but are too dificult to get them.2 low drops and they belong first to melee classes than hunters!
PvP axe is still very easy to get.

Don't be silly. Dagger of Bad Mojo is pretty much best in slot for a Hunter until T6. No one has priority over a best in slot drop.

On top of that, no melee class will use them.

Daggers are dead in TBC.
#21 Jun 25 2008 at 1:22 AM Rating: Decent
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BlackRevolution wrote:
I can't get it to work either. It never wants to load my profile.


Are you using Excel or Open Office? If you're using excel, make sure that all macros are fully enabled. The options for in Office 2003 it are somewhere in the settings (probably under "security settings"). I'm using Office 07, and the options are under Excel Settings > Trust Center > Trust Center Settings > Macro Settings. I really hate how it's set up, but whatever.

But back to the topic at hand :)

I'm actually pretty torn on S2 going to BG honor. On one hand, I finally get an upgrade for my T4 helm, since I hate arenas. Took me 2 months to get the Vengeful Axe- simply because I was never compelled to do arenas, even though my arena partner plays right on the computer next to me.

On the other hand, I think that it's a huge pile of crap that people can start building up honor before they even hit 70 to get gear that's better than what took me months to get AFTER I hit 70.

I guess I should just stop worrying about it, though. I figure that people who are JUST hitting 70 for the first time will want to run Karazhan because of its reputation (not talking about The Violet Eye, btw), and guild probably won't want to take people in full S2 gear that have no experience with raiding. While people who are leveling alts will have an easier way to get them ready for T5 content- rather than running their 2nd, 3rd or even 4th 70 through an instance that they got sick of months ago.
#22 Jun 25 2008 at 6:28 AM Rating: Decent
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This will just make it easier to fill in gaps, I think. Rep and dungeons will still have to get the +hit and all S2 will be a little light on intelligence for the long boss fights. All in all, I think I would have been ready to start Kara about 1 month sooner with this and still hit capped at the same time. (New 70) People with guilds that have Kara on farm will still gear up quicker through Heroics/Kara gear runs IMO (and go this route for the badges alone 2.4 badge FTW). Besides BG grinding sucks, anyone who will grind the whole set can have it.
#23 Jun 25 2008 at 11:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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Also make sure you download the correct version. There is both an OO and a microsoft version. Both should work in the default install just make sure that when they ask about enabling macros you click yes.
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