Indirect nerf to shaman in arena.Follow

Currently on the PTR, warlock and mage armor buffs are now a physical buff(And no longer say magical on the tooltip.) and are undispellable. It hasn't been confirmed if it's a bug or not, didn't see a thread on this, so I thought I'd make one.

WOW...this hurts, particularly enhancement shaman trying to arena. You can no longer be a purge-bot on Mage Ice/molten armor and Warlock Fel armor. If these armors are becoming physical, is there any goddam reason earthsheild, a 41 point freaking non-passive talent cannot be physical as well? That would be extremely helpful to resto shams in arena...

Edited, Jun 22nd 2008 9:01pm by Taurrus

Erm hello? This is PTR, you know? Public TEST Realm? To test stuff to see how they turn out? Yeah that's how it works.
I know I know...

I'll join in the QQ if it goes live.

Mmmm hmmm...why don't they test out making earthshield a physical spell then? Unlike fel and Ice armor which they spent 0 talents to get.

Mage armours fair enough as they have a greater offensive/defensive impact, I can see why you'd want the ability to Purge Ice Armour.

Warlock armours though? They're not really up to much to be honest, Demonic Armour is 100% useless (until WotLK) and Fel Armour is hardly a gamewinner. Neither armour is much use against a Shaman as it is, so I dont see that as a significant nerf to be honest.

And there is a difference between ES and DA/FA: mana cost. The Warlock armours cost s ludicrous amount of mana to activate, ES is comparatively cheap. Although the cooldown recently added is just stupid.

I'm honestly not at all concerned about it in terms of balance; I just happen to think it's stupid. As I said earlier, what's the point of even having spells like Purge and Dispel if you can't remove anything with them? And yes, I know there is still plenty left to remove, but still... The "cost" of Mage and Warlock armors are moot. They buff up for free before every arena match. All the current system does is keep them from constantly re-buffing throughout a match, and honestly, this may even hurt them since they'll no longer be able to pad things like Ice Barrier and PW:S (see the patch notes where dispels now ignore things that can't be dispelled) by rebuffing with low-level spells during a match.

As for Lecanthi... yes, his remarks may be logical, but a forum is for talking about stuff. Saying, "You shouldn't post this information or have this opinion because it's stupid," is the antithesis of what a forum exists for in the first place. If Taurrus wants to QQ, let him QQ. You don't have to read it and you're under no obligation to reply to it, so don't get testy in return if he happens to defend his initial remarks.

Coz you can see my facial expressions and body language over the intarwebz amirite?

The mage armor they are talking about are: Mage Armor (magic resistance + 30% mana regen while casting), Ice/Frost Armor (+armor, chance to slow movement + attack speed on hit, and possibly freeze someone in place), Molten Armor (+3% spell crit, deals fire damage on hit, possible stun if specced).

This has nothing to do with the ice shield that frost mages get. Those aren't considered "armor" because it is a shield. Really none of those armors are anything worthwhile except Ice/Frost armor if you have it so it can freeze people who hit you in place.

Edited, Jul 1st 2008 10:47am by Jiade

Hooray! Welcome back, Draeneipally!

I'd be pretty surprised if this actually went live. Not only does it make absolutely no sense (magic becoming physical?) and because it would severely impact the way dispel/melee teams fight mages.